Sacrificing rational concern to political correctness

Of course this is from San Francisco!

Congressman Mike Honda Urges FDA to Overturn Ban on Gay Blood Donors
By Michelle Roberts and NBC Bay Area Staff | Monday, Jul 7, 2014 | Updated 4:59 PM PDT

A Bay Area congressman is calling on the Food and Drug Administration to lift the ban preventing gay and bisexual men from donating blood.

Mike Honda (D-San Jose) started an online petition to try to get the FDA to overturn the ban. He says the ban is outdated, discriminatory and based on decades-old fears that have been discounted by science.

“The FDA should end the ban and revise its policy and focus on behavior and individual risk, and not on sexual orientation,” Honda said Monday.

After holding a news conference Monday afternoon, Honda was joined by other leaders – including Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeff Rosen and County Supervisor Dave Cortese – for a blood drive outside the county administration building on Hedding Street.

More at the link.

Several months ago, when I was being considered as a donor for a bone marrow transplant, they sent me a very detailed questionnaire, wanting to know if I had had sex with another male within the past five years, or, if I had been female, the question was whether I had had sex with any male who had had sex with another male within the last five years. It’s serious business, because, unlike blood donation, if you are donating for a bone marrow transplant, you are the closest match for a specific recipient, and without that transplant, he will die. But I’d have been automatically excluded if I had been homosexual. I did have to go through some blood work, which included an HIV test, and everything came back negative.

It turned out that there was a closer match, so I didn’t have to donate anyway, for which I was glad: a bone marrow donation isn’t a pleasant thing.1 But the obvious question is: why should we tinker with reasonable safety precautions, put in place for a damned good reason, just to be politically correct?

And the obvious answer is: we shouldn’t.
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  1. I’d still have done it, but I sure wasn’t looking forward to it!

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  1. I wonder how many innocent people including children with leukemia or other blood diseases died in the mid 80′s to mid 90′s because our PC better’s refused to recognize Aids was predominant in the gay community? They put their collective fingers in their ears and went la-la-la-la and hoped it would go away. I recall around 1982 watching some douche on TV spouting off on how Aids was Reagan’s fault, and it wasn’t a gay disease and how by 1990 about 60 million Americans would be infected by Aids. Another radical leftist dumbass prediction.

    BTW, at Patterico Perry went from “vota” to “Xmas”. I assume he chose Xmas because he figured if he typed “Christmas” he would bust into a bonfire of agnostic/leftist flames.

  2. ” … why should we tinker with reasonable safety precautions, put in place for a damned good reason, just to be politically correct?”

    Because for the nihilists of the left (meaning that they hold that individual life itself has no inherent value or purpose) the highest value is “community” and “inclusion” and a place in the nonjudgemental center of warm snuffling scrum of … organisms of some kind or another. That, constitutes their sense of “being”. To be set off on their own, in the clear light and bracing breezes, as responsible or distinguishable, and with the esteem or acceptance of others made contingent on their behavior, is for them to be excluded from the only thing that gives their lives any meaning at all: unconditional acceptance even to the point where it kills the one granting it.

    But of course what liberals demand of others, they shrug off as being reciprocally implied. That is why they are so famous for cutting dead those who offend them or violate any liberal shibboleths at all.

    By the way, I was in AA the other day at the U of M, and I have never in my life seen streets and cafes filled with so many unattractive women. Name any college town on the planet and it’s almost sure to be filled with healthy and happy looking females. There? Skinny, vacant faced, round shouldered, flat chested females – slouching and shuffling along in flip flops seems to be pretty much par for the course. Of course I just encountered a slice of the place and I’ve no doubt overstated the case, but it pretty much confirms the impressions I’ve gained in numerous other trips there. I guess they are loved for their minds, by those delicate, shoulder bag carrying males, who often escorted them.

    Seriously, it looks as though people are actually trying to be as unfit as possible nowadays. Maybe they are.

  3. Typical Democrat, Honda is attempting to contaminate the nation’s blood supply with the deadly HIV virus which he knows will reduce the number of expensive surgical procedures ObamaCare would otherwise be required to provide. Therefore, more money to spend on Democrat high priority projects – suppressing the TEA Party, more money to buy votes (with special emphasis on illegal aliens) and more shipments of heavy arms to Islamic terrorists.

    Honda knows Democrat health policies are focused on making sure patients currently infected with HIV will die quickly, and that to maintain the projected death rates contaminated blood must be widely available for future transfusions. Only strict adherence to the timetable will succeed in killing off a sufficient number of ordinary surgical patients who would otherwise survive in order to compensate for all the newly arrived illegals in desperate need of health care. (An added bonus is the illegals are carrying a plethora of highly contagious diseases.)

    Word of how deadly hospital visits are will spread like wildfire and even well insured Americans, especially the elderly, who selfishly seek surgical operations to unnecessarily prolong their unproductive lives, will refuse hospital treatment, take their chances, and die quietly at home well outside the notice of nosy blabbermouths at FOX NEWS.

  4. Seriously, it looks as though people are actually trying to be as unfit as possible nowadays.

    They are as fit as their dope smoking, Whole Foods Organic potato chip, vegan, no salt, fat or sugar lifestyle allows. After all, if all you do is drink bottled water and Starbucks coffee and eat twigs, bark and pebbles how fit can you be?

  5. is for them to be excluded from the only thing that gives their lives any meaning at all: unconditional acceptance even to the point where it kills the one granting it.

    That may well be for the followers of left wing ideology. But I still say the leaders (Hillary, for example) are motivated mainly by lust for power and control over others. Indeed, Orwell’s 1984 is their version of heaven, provided, of course, that they get to play the role of Big Brother.

  6. Eric
    Wednesday, 9 July 2014 at 14:14

    is for them to be excluded from the only thing that gives their lives any meaning at all: unconditional acceptance even to the point where it kills the one granting it.

    That may well be for the followers of left wing ideology. But I still say the leaders (Hillary, for example) are motivated mainly by lust for power and control over others. Indeed, Orwell’s 1984 is their version of heaven, provided, of course, that they get to play the role of Big Brother.

    Maybe there’s a sense in which the two points of liberal need meet. The conservative, or libertarian who seeks power seems to me likely to seek it in horsepower or some other analogue. The social insect on the other hand, whether queen bee or willing drone …

  7. Oh, that’s a great analogy, DNW. The way the leftists exist is kinda like a bee hive. The Gores, Obamas, Clintons, are the “queen bees” . The lobbyists, lawyers and bureaucrats are the drones. And everybody else from union hacks to the guy who owns the gas station are all the worker bees toiling to support the vast desires of those “better” than they.

  8. “Hoagie
    Thursday, 10 July 2014 at 10:04

    Oh, that’s a great analogy, DNW. The way the leftists exist is kinda like a bee hive. The Gores, Obamas, Clintons, are the “queen bees” . The lobbyists, lawyers and bureaucrats are the drones. And everybody else from union hacks to the guy who owns the gas station are all the worker bees toiling to support the vast desires of those “better” than they.”

    Yes, it’s all ok though, because they are included, and esteemed, and there is a place at the communal table for all … just as long as everyone there recognizes and stays in his place and also realizes that his “right to life” or to access the material world is actually a social permission. And anyway, why toil away on a piece of lousy property to which you have some supposed “right”, when you can float on a sea of supporting others? With a government always there ensuring that they keep their arms raised. Floating, gently floating … People love me this I know, cause the Gov’mnt tells them so …

  9. It’s my sense that ALL left wingers lust for power. If simply being part of a “Community” were all they wanted, then the hippie communes would still be around. No, they won’t be satisfied until the rest of us are under their thumbs, hence their “Outrage” over the Hobby-Lobby decision. They can’t stand it that anyone, group or individual, business or religious organization, can declare independence from the rule of their grasping tentacles.

  10. When the left gave up on faith in the real God, perhaps they had an innate need for a replacement deity, one who must be obeyed, and so they now have His Obamaness, whose Word is holy writ, and to which fealty must be paid.

    There used to be more than one kind of liberal in American politics, but tat seems to no longer be the case. The Clintons kept pro-life Governor Robert Casey (D-PA) from speaking to the 1992 Democratic National Convention, but now pro-abortion politics has so infested the Democratic Party that there aren’t any pro-life Democrats of whom I can think. Governor Casey’s son, now Senator Bob Casey (D-PA) was supposedly pro-life, but he votes pro-abortion, every time.

    There is no Democratic objection to Obaminablecare — other than to push for single payer — and no Democratic resistance to illegal immigration, or to increasing the minimum wage, or any of the hard left proposals coming from President Obama. Democrats were never this single-minded before.

  11. Editor
    Thursday, 10 July 2014 at 12:39

    When the left gave up on faith in the real God, perhaps they had an innate need for a replacement deity, one who must be obeyed, and so they now have His Obamaness, whose Word is holy writ, and to which fealty must be paid.

    It is a religion. It’s contains an emotionally satisfying eschatology: a version the human story in which all wounds are healed, all neuroses salved, all fears allayed, all rejections reversed, all quirks tolerated and enabled, and all tears eventually wiped away by the loving ministrations of an ever-enlarging government acting on behalf of the emerging “collective”. Freedom, not to own property and to direct one’s self in the use of it, but a freedom from the self is what they seek, and constitutes their idea of liberation. Some progressives, even longingly refer to it as an evolutionary emergence of the “hive”, or in some cases the hive-mind. Which proves that my “liberal : social insect” analogy was only so in the barest terms, and not really all that insightful on my part.

    In a repeat of an experimental result needing no further confirmation whatever, I just pissed away [as Eric and Hitchcock would certainly say] some time over the past few weeks in working at the prospect of reasoning with a particular self-identified liberal who had visited Hitchcock’s site, and then left a link there to his own American Liberal Times blog.

    I found, once again, that it was like trying to reason with a stone.

    And as with Perry, one soon discovers that they are not “simply ignorant” or merely ignorant, but that they have thoroughly internalized certain interpretive principles or perspectives, which to their minds at least, make reasoning about moral principles, that is engaging in right reasoning, pointless from their point of view.

    This trend has been developing for a long time in the US; but I think that conservatives and libertarians have until recently underestimated the depth and extent of the psychological transformation which has really taken place in the people calling themselves “liberals”.

    Yes, liberals are different in that they are more emotional, more neurotic, more fearful, more attuned to feelings, and less sexually dimorphic than normal men and women. But they, the liberals, have also absorbed, not only intellectually, but with an assent of the will, a view of reality that is radically relativist, materialist, and ultimately nihilist. And they find comfort in this as a form of psychological liberation from the burdens of the self understood as an eternally responsible agent.

    What they have liberated themselves from, then, is from any feelings of guilt which might be induced by believing that there are, or that they are subject to, objective moral standards in a universe wherein it is incumbent upon a man to recognize and observe them.

    But of course from the liberal perspective, and pending the arrival of the collective and the end of history as we have known it, it’s for now quite convenient to associate, and even to affiliate with people (whether they themselves wish it or not) who hold themselves to, and are inhibited by, much stricter interpersonal and behavioral standards that the liberal holds himself to. It gives the lib, a kind of advantage.

    The upshot is that they have reduced themselves to the status of sub-moral, but clever, “feeling” and satisfaction seeking beasts; and are quite content with that status. Nothing particularly new with the observation that there are some of the species who are like that. Ancient philosophers recognized that a significant portion of humankind was content to graze, fuck, nuzzle and belch.

    But no constitutional republic can survive with such a willingly, and happily, degraded citizenry.

  12. BTW, at Patterico Perry went from “vota” to “Xmas”. I assume he chose Xmas because he figured if he typed “Christmas” he would bust into a bonfire of agnostic/leftist flames.

    Are you sure that’s Perry? The spelling and tone certainly do not seem like him.

  13. “The FDA should end the ban and revise its policy and focus on behavior and individual risk, and not on sexual orientation,” Honda said Monday.

    Fair enough. Now let’s apply that to instances of discrimination.

  14. Yes Hube, it’s Perry. He’s trying to be cute, but it’s he. The observation that vota and Xmas cannot stop using !!!!!!!!!! by itself shows it’s Perry. Besides, I’ve challenged him on at least a few occasions and he did not deny. You and I can say all we want, but if someone called me “Hube” I would correct them just as you would if someone called you “Hoagie”.

  15. Now, DNW, your post of: DNW Thursday, 10 July 2014 at 13:36 is one of the most provocative and interesting post’s I’ve read in quite awhile. I want to comment and may I say, AGREE. However, I’ve been a tad drinking so I need to wait till tomorrow.

    Please don’t think ill of me but I must be totally sober to engage you. Funny, even though I agree with every word you wrote I must be lucid to interact. Call me crazy.

    And it may not be tomorrow as I am accompanying a friend to (hopefully) purchase a 1969 MGB. Looks good but we gotta drive it and check out the motor, body etc.. Actually, I have not seen it yet, I’m going by his opinion. And he knows as much about cars as I do about transplanting a brain.

  16. Remember This: We Are All Equal, just that some are no more and a lot less equal in mind, body, health and spirit than the others. Then again, this is Lib Land we’re talking about and they look down on us mere mortals.

  17. Yes, liberals are different in that they are more emotional, more neurotic, more fearful, more attuned to feelings, and less sexually dimorphic than normal men and women.

    DNW, don’t forget the level of arrogance of the left winger, too. Take our two recently banned lefties (please!). Despite (or, perhaps, because of) being thorough mediocrities, Perry and Pho routinely comported themselves like royalty among a rabble of peasants. Same on the national stage. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid walk around with their noses in the air, much like the old French aristocracy before the guillotine finally cut them down to size.

  18. Actually, the Phoenician was never banned. Yeah, he was an [insert slang term for the rectum], but his behavior was never personally threatening, and he was not banned.

  19. Hoagie wrote:

    And it may not be tomorrow as I am accompanying a friend to (hopefully) purchase a 1969 MGB.

    As the not-so-proud former owner of a very pretty 1978 MGB, I urge you not to buy one, ever, unless you happen to work on cars for a hobby.

    Why do the British drink warm beer? Because their refrigerators are made by Lucas Electric! And Lucas does the wiring for the MGs, and uses their finer-than-a-human-hair, I have no freaking idea what gauge wire.

  20. Actually, the Phoenician was never banned.

    Really? I could have sworn you finally banned him late last fall or thereabouts. Not for any *specific* infraction per se, but just because you had (inserting word for ‘Sphincter’ here) just got fed up with his overall assholery and banned him quite suddenly on that basis. I mean, I sure remember him disappearing in a hurry, something he seemed very loath to do on his own initiative.

  21. Yet you still see old MG’s and Triumphs on the road.

    That said, if you want a car that has all the virtues of the Classic British sports car and none of its vices, then just get a good used Mazda Miata.

  22. Bullshit.

    You banned me and if you unbanned me now, it’s simply to hide teh fact that you’re a fucking liar, Dana.

    [After the Phoenician claimed that he was banned, when he was not, I went and checked the spam filter, and there it was. If you will look at the third from last word in his comment, you'll see why the spam filter caught it. Even though this comment appears before my subsequent comment, it was released from the spam filter and this note attached afterward. -- Editor.]

  23. The Phoenician just wrote me an e-mail, calling me a [name of the Lord taken in vain] liar for saying that he had never been banned, and that he just tried again, and the message disappeared. I just checked my banning list, and it uses IP addresses, which all begin with 98. or 173., all of which are Delaware IP addresses.

    There are a couple of e-mail addresses listed, all of which were used by Perry.

  24. I do find it interesting, however, that either the Phoenician keeps checking, or someone who knows him and his real e-mail address — he uses a fake one, not@home.to.you when he comments — does, and wrote him. Whom that other person might be, I really have no idea. :)

  25. The Attention Whore is back, whining, as usual, that it was treated “Unfairly”. Boo hoo. I’ve told it before – if it doesn’t like the way this site is run, go find another.

  26. After the Phoenician claimed that he was banned, when he was not,

    You are a goddamned liar, Dana, and HERE’S the proof.

    http://www.journal14.com/2013/11/20/226-years-ago-jefferson-wrote-this/comment-page-1/#comment-121875

    Oh, and you censored down the email I sent you, just like the liar you are. Allow me to reproduce it in full, with suitable asterisks for the spam filter:

    —–
    “Actually, the Phoenician was never banned.”

    I don’t know how you can sleep at night, you lying piece of sh*t.

    You banned me, and a quick check shows I am still banned. And you’re f*cking lying about it on your blog while banning my comments.

    You truly are a fine example of American Christian conservatism as it really works.

    FOAD.
    —–

    I have presented proof that you banned me – you yourself bragging about that in 2013 – which demonstrates precisely what you are.

    And I check here regularly because, in the words of Charles Pierce, it helps to find out “what the dumbsh*tes are thinking”. You idiots repeat most any inane wingnut stupidity circulating in the clogosphere.

    CC’d to email as well because you can’t be trusted, you lying sack of sh*t.

  27. Eric
    Friday, 11 July 2014 at 15:14

    Yes, liberals are different in that they are more emotional, more neurotic, more fearful, more attuned to feelings, and less sexually dimorphic than normal men and women.

    DNW, don’t forget the level of arrogance of the left winger, too. Take our two recently banned lefties (please!). Despite (or, perhaps, because of) being thorough mediocrities, Perry and Pho routinely comported themselves like royalty among a rabble of peasants. Same on the national stage. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid walk around with their noses in the air, much like the old French aristocracy before the guillotine finally cut them down to size.

    Now this charge of elitism leveled against the left is something I have had trouble grasping for a long time. For they are clearly, as anyone who has debated them knows all too well, nothing like an intellectual or reasoning elite. And I find it difficult to believe that they are so deluded as to actually imagine themselves as qualitatively superior when the physical and psychological evidence is all to the contrary.

    What they are, are merely persons who’ve adopted a particular deconstructive and socially subversive strategy as a means of survival, and even aggrandizement.

    All the rest is Darwinian camouflage and niche seeking.

    Now there is one area wherein I think that they do imagine that they are “superior” in some actual sense. And that is the sense in which they believe that they have discovered that life is essentially meaningless and man fundamentally irrational, and that they, unlike conservatives and libertarians, have successfully made their peace with that state of affairs. They seem to figure that they are acting as the real “realists” when they shrug off the moral import of all the falsehoods and deceits they deploy in the name of getting what they want. As they see it, all life is essentially based deception and predation, and the totalitarian hive life is the only solution to the problem of suffering.

    In that sense then, in the sense of their self-conscious self-liberation from the inhibitions imposed on us by either a real, or taken to be real and objective morality, I would assume that they do think that they are “superior”. And when their logic in this regard is shown to be incoherent, they merely shrug that off too.

    In the sense then that conservatives take dialog to be a morally freighted transaction in a way which liberals do not, liberals have I guess you could say placed themselves in the supposedly “superior” position of framing questions to suit, controlling the narrative, and ignoring the rules of exchange.

  28. I thought I remembered the Socialist everything-hating Kiwi getting banned because he can’t stop defecating on the furniture. And above is proof he can’t stop defecating on the furniture.

  29. Now this charge of elitism leveled against the left is something I have had trouble grasping for a long time. For they are clearly, as anyone who has debated them knows all too well, nothing like an intellectual or reasoning elite.

    I agree they are no elite in any objective sense of the term. Yet they act like elites all the same. PJ O’Rourke once identified them as a “Self-selecting elite”, meaning they are an “Elite” simply on the basis of them saying they are.

    You cannot engage a left winger without soon noticing the overweening attitude of superiority and condescension aimed at anyone who is not part of their crowd. Note, for example, how often Perry demanded that Republicans have to “Work with” Obama without either Obama or Democrats generally having any obligation to ever return the favor. Theirs is the “Elitism” of people who think of themselves as the natural rulers of mankind with the rest of us occupying the role of the obedient peasantry.

  30. John Hitchcock
    Monday, 14 July 2014 at 12:20

    I thought I remembered the Socialist everything-hating Kiwi getting banned because he can’t stop defecating on the furniture. And above is proof he can’t stop defecating on the furniture.”

    I probably encouraged Dana to yank the plug on him, but I cannot say whether he did, or whether he just kept deleting the substandard and disruptive posts till the troll gave the game up.

    You can gut the troll’s offending posts, or you can muzzle the troll.

    The problem with the first approach for some, unlike for myself, is that they recoil at shoving the knife in; and so it becomes a kind of silly game, with the troll continually seeing how near the dead-line he can approach without finding his entrails spilled out on the ground.

  31. IIRC correctly, Dana’s instituted temporary bans here and there from time to time. Maybe that link refers to such.

    But at any rate, who the f*** cares? It’s Pho. He deserves the ban anyway.

  32. I honestly don’t recall a permanent ban of the Phoenician, but whatever, I find it interesting that, despite him not commenting here for months and months, and believing that he couldn’t — and he used to try with the silly Ana Nova, or whatever it was, name, so he knew how to get around filters — he “check(s) here regularly.” We get far too few visits to be considered an important site, and one would think he’d spend his time more productively, given that reasons he gave, visiting the more popular ones.

  33. ” Editor
    Monday, 14 July 2014 at 20:27

    I honestly don’t recall a permanent ban of the Phoenician, but whatever, I find it interesting that, despite him not commenting here for months and months, and believing that he couldn’t — and he used to try with the silly Ana Nova, or whatever it was, name, so he knew how to get around filters — he “check(s) here regularly.” We get far too few visits to be considered an important site, and one would think he’d spend his time more productively, given that reasons he gave, visiting the more popular ones.”

    Yeah, and according to him he’s not mentally ill, either.

  34. But at any rate, who the f*** cares? It’s Pho. He deserves the ban anyway.

    Yeah. Perhaps he should take a moral lesson from this. When you show up on someone else’s site and hang around for years with the express purpose of picking fights and making enemies, don’t be surprised when your complaints fall on deaf ears. Or else serve mainly to provide some minor amusement for the rest of us.

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