The Republicans cave

I had thought that they’d cave all along; I’m simply surprised that it took as long as it did. What the Republicans managed to do was to hold on just long enough to do the maximum damage to the party before they surrendered.

Our friends on the left are doing a victory dance, one that they’ve pretty well earned.

Well, it’s over. The White Flag has been raised.
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Speaker Boehner has been defeated. More importantly, the Teabagger Traitors have been defeated. As you may know by now, Speaker Boehner, early this morning, gathered his caucus, had Representative Southerland, who in a prior life, I swear to God, was a Undertaker in a Funeral Home, sing the Christian funeral hymn ‘Amazing Grace,’ all three verses of it, and then told them, per Robert Costa of the National Review, that he would rather throw a grenade than catch one. And so he tried desperately to craft a bill that will attract all Republican votes. Various add-ons and poison pills were bantered about all day, but in the end, the Boehner House Bill did not have the votes, and the bill, which was never really introduced, was pulled.

So now, Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell have resumed their negotiations, and according to MSNBC per a Senate Democratic source, a debt and budget deal that will avert default and reopen the government is “imminent.”

More gloating at the link.

The Republicans picked a very tough fight: they don’t control the Senate and they don’t control the White House. They had the weapons that they needed to win — the expiration of appropriations and the debt ceiling being reached — but only if they had the balls to actually use those weapons if the Democrats didn’t back down. The Democrats didn’t back down, the polls showed the public blaming the Republicans, and then, having picked this fight in the first place, they got just a couple of small, very small, face-saving bones thrown to them, but they gave up, quit, surrendered, just didn’t have the stomach to win the fight they picked.

So, the left are gloating, and they deserve to gloat: we lost the fight we picked.

26 Comments

  1. Should make Michael Medved happy. He can stop hyperventilating that it’s irresponsible to bring down a system just because it’s destroying your freedom. These are the asswipes who would rather die than resist. LOL

    Well, there’s more than one way to skin a cat or cut off the hand of a molester.

  2. When you stand without principles, and fake those principles to retain power, you nothing but this to show for your half-hearted lack of moral leadership. This ship was sunk before it left port.

    You will know them by their actions and deeds, not words:
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  3. So, the left are gloating, and they deserve to gloat

    Unfortunately, the RINO’s will be gloating also. As Randal says in the movie Clerks – “It feels so good to be right”. DNW is right. Medved’a radio show is on right now and I’m sure his head is swelled up to the size of the planet Jupiter. And Porky Pig Karl Rove will no doubt be making the rounds on Cable TV today, too.

    Still, this is a fight that had to happen. It provided much needed clarity within the GOP. Now we know where everyone stands, the Surrender Monkeys RINO’s vs the Tea Party patriots. Note in that piece above, he refers to Tea Party Traitors. That’s how left wingers see us. You don’t negotiate with that mindset, you don’t compromise. All the RINO’s have shown is the truth of that old Winston Churchill statement – “Appeasement is the notion that, if you keep feeding the crocodile, it will eat you last. “

  4. It’s like watching a two year old throw themselves to the ground and have a temper tantrum in public – no matter how much they scream and carry on, the onlookers, the mother and ultimately the toddler themselves already know that they’re not going to get anywhere.

  5. “Unfortunately, the RINO’s will be gloating also. As Randal says in the movie Clerks – “It feels so good to be right”. DNW is right. Medved’a radio show is on right now and I’m sure his head is swelled up to the size of the planet Jupiter. And Porky Pig Karl Rove will no doubt be making the rounds on Cable TV today, too. ”

    No one promised that life would be mosquito or parasite free. We all know that leftist garbage has nothing in life to do but to seek to attach itself to others, and no scruples about doing so.

    It’s a never ending social battle, as long as mercy or pity allows the leftist a foothold in your life, and many conservatives would, due to their personal and spiritual commitments, and possibly fears, prefer to make a show of resisting rather than really let the enemies of freedom and personal responsibility destroy themselves.

  6. “Still, this is a fight that had to happen. It provided much needed clarity within the GOP …”

    Conservatives have always seemed to have a difficult time grasping how morally alien the progressive actually is. Most probably have (at least historically speaking) been naive God and Country conservatives, who never really had a deep knowledge of progressive ideology, or a clear idea of what the progressive is aiming for.

    I doubt if 1 out of 100,000 conservatives would let (we’ll use Phoenician as an example here since he’s commenting) Phoenician – and here’s the kicker … even if they knew all that we know about him – die exposed in a ditch or a field if they thought they could do something to prevent it.

    The same would go for David Corn or Bill Ayers or any number of similar cases.

    Conservatives persist in seeing a person gone wrong, rather than a morally different kind as the leftist admits, or even proclaims, itself to be.

    Fortunately as normal people gain more in-depth experience with the leftist kind, that is at least in principle, changing.

  7. DNW wrote:

    I doubt if 1 out of 100,000 conservatives would let (we’ll use Phoenician as an example here since he’s commenting) Phoenician – and here’s the kicker … even if they knew all that we know about him – die exposed in a ditch or a field if they thought they could do something to prevent it.

    The same would go for David Corn or Bill Ayers or any number of similar cases.

    Conservatives persist in seeing a person gone wrong, rather than a morally different kind as the leftist admits, or even proclaims, itself to be.

    I will be very blunt here: if we are opposed to the idea of guaranteed health care coverage, as I am, then we have to be willing to let the Phoenician or David Corn or Bill Ayers die exposed in a ditch. If we cannot let Messrs Romans, Corn or Ayers die of exposure or anything else, then the argument isn’t about eliminating Obaminablecare, but simply how best and most efficiently to provide universal health care coverage.

  8. Phoenician in a time of Romans
    Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 17:17

    It’s like watching a two year old throw themselves to the ground and have a temper tantrum in public – no matter how much they scream and carry on, the onlookers, the mother and ultimately the toddler themselves already know that they’re not going to get anywhere.

    Thanks, you described Obama and Reid perfectly.

  9. Out of the burned out pyre that was once the Republican party comes a new realization the Progressives own it all – lock, stock and barrel. What they don’t realize is their lock is rusted with the flint soft and broken, the stock is warped and carved to the wrong specs, and the barrel is a smoothbore of the wrong caliber and the bullet was cast to fit the lands and grooves.

  10. I will be very blunt here: if we are opposed to the idea of guaranteed health care coverage, as I am, then we have to be willing to let the Phoenician or David Corn or Bill Ayers die exposed in a ditch.

    Aren’t you lucky Progressives aren’t willing to do the same?

  11. No, I am very unlucky about that, because I have health insurance. I am unlucky because it means more money out of my pocket to pay for the worthless pieces of shit who won’t work.

  12. Maybe there would be more jobs available for American non-workers if some employers didn’t hire illegal aliens.

    Possibly. But then, more will hire illegals in the future to get around shit like Obamacare.

  13. Aren’t you lucky Progressives aren’t willing to do the same?

    Given that left wing ideology has killed about 85 million people so far, yours is an entirely ridiculous (not to mention, self-serving) statement.

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  15. Editor
    Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 19:47

    DNW wrote:

    I doubt if 1 out of 100,000 conservatives would let (we’ll use Phoenician as an example here since he’s commenting) Phoenician – and here’s the kicker … even if they knew all that we know about him – die exposed in a ditch or a field if they thought they could do something to prevent it.

    The same would go for David Corn or Bill Ayers or any number of similar cases.

    Conservatives persist in seeing a person gone wrong, rather than a morally different kind as the leftist admits, or even proclaims, itself to be.

    I will be very blunt here: if we are opposed to the idea of guaranteed health care coverage, as I am, then we have to be willing to let the Phoenician or David Corn or Bill Ayers die exposed in a ditch. If we cannot let Messrs Romans, Corn or Ayers die of exposure or anything else, then the argument isn’t about eliminating Obaminablecare, but simply how best and most efficiently to provide universal health care coverage.

    The argument with the nihilist leftist class is as always, about your life and best interests, versus its appetites.

    And as always the leftist has to veil its mindless wants behind a specious appeal to a “common good”. The “common good”, being a phrase which when unpacked means nothing like anyone would imagine the term “common good” would mean. As the left use it, it basically renders down to you, picking up the check for a nihilist loser like Phoenician, or a fraud and shill like David Corn, or a Maoist terrorist bung-hole like Bill Ayers.

    These are the kind of miscreants any rational and healthy persons would naturally seek to distance themselves from in terms of contact, contracts, and risk sharing.

    The miscreants know this and will stop at nothing to gain the interpersonal access a prudent man would reasonably deny them.

    But conservatives (as the prudent man) are as I have repeatedly pointed out, saddled with a number of internalized inhibitions in resisting the leftist organism which those leftist organisms seeking to prey upon conservatives, don’t reciprocally experience.

    A perfect illustration are the leftists’ recent morally insane reactions to the Republicans’ perfectly lawful and legitimate parliamentary resistance to leftist appropriative efforts: stating as they did that Republicans are guilty of political “Treason” and “treachery”, capital crimes traditionally punishable by death, for seeking not to fund “Obamacare”. This gives real insight into just how mentally unhinged, how psychologically and morally Stalinist, the American left has become.

    They have no God apart from appetites they can neither explain or justify as objectively respectable ends; they recognize no natural law moral limits to their claims on others; and they dwell in a world with no meaning other than that subjectively provided by the satisfaction of their welling appetites, which are, on their own admission, ultimately pointless.

    They are motivated by they know not for what, in order that they may realize, they know not for what. And, their target, is you.

    Some years ago when deeply involved in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms debate, I had an exchange, one of many, with a lefty on the topic of “Natural Law and Rights”.

    The lefty scoffed that the idea was meaningful, citing lions and tigers and bears. It was pointed out to him that he had the notion of “nature” all wrong as it applied to the concept of natural law.

    Once enlightened, he responded that if such as I explained were the case, then there were no “human natures” in any event; much less any logically valid entailments which could be drawn from axioms derived from those observations of man’s “nature”.

    I replied that if he denied a universal human nature as applicable to all members of the nominal human species based on iterated examples, it still did not then imply that no humans at all had a (more or less shared with some others) nature, the examination of which would lead to certain logical deductions.

    And in granting that he did not himself rise to the level of having objectively ascertainable rights, and on his own say so he didn’t, it did not then logically mean that no others did. For in order to construct the categorical universal negative he implied, he had to affirm a class (membership) universality he explicitly denied.

    His answer was an emotional and defiant retort to the effect that whatever I had, he had too, regardless of what it was he actually argued.

    And, that if he was bound for hell, he’d ride me like a horse there too.

    This then, is what we are dealing with when the surface is scraped away, and the real leftist-being revealed.

    I’m used to seeing it by now. Some of us have yet to grasp that it is there at all.

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    Dana, why not take this opportunity to shut down Perry’s hate filled site? He is using YOUR resources to spread his vicious bile, as opposed to “Bridging The Gap” as the site is lyingly titled.

  17. Eric: Our former commenter is not using the the resource in any of the ways which resulted in him being banned here, and it costs me but a pittance. I don’t object to Perry’s stating what he believes; it was simply that he was creating such havoc through personal revelations concerning others on this site that it was intolerable.

    The Phoenician is actually lot ruder than Perry was, but he’s not out there trying to publish personal information.

  18. Eric: Our former commenter is not using the the resource in any of the ways which resulted in him being banned here, and it costs me but a pittance.

    Possibly, but it’s still a pittance too much. If he’s going to spread his hate, lies, and slander, let him do it on his own dime.

    I don’t object to Perry’s stating what he believes

    I do, because what he “Believes” is evil. If you were a Jew, would you allow him to spread Nazi propaganda on a site you were paying for?

    The Phoenician is actually lot ruder than Perry was

    Only in the beginning. Perry was halfway civil to start with. But it didn’t last. Pretty soon he was calling everyone here (including you, his benefactor) racists, terrorists, traitors, unpatriotic, extemists, and other usual left wing slander. He is a classic case of the guy who bites the hand that feeds him.

  19. Oh, Dana – do we have to remind you what happened when you called for civility on the blog?

    Myself and Perry immediately adopted a civil tone.

    Your wingnut commentators simply could not bring themselves to be civil.

    We called on you to enforce your stated rules on your wingnut commentators.

    And you could not bring yourself to do so.

    And we laughed and laughed and laughed at you.

  20. Yet you still keep coming back, don’t you? You’ve told us that we are stupid, you’ve hurled all sorts of insults at us, you’ve said we’re all liars, but, almost like an addict, you keep coming back for more. ‘Twas the middle of the work day for you, yet you somehow felt compelled to visit this poor site.

  21. “Personally, I think all American progressives should do the same ”

    They can’t. The type needs conservatives in a way that conservatives do not need them. Collectivism, enforced through political means, is just the survival strategy that type adopts in order to get what goods and services it otherwise could not get for itself through its own productiveness, voluntary exchange, usefulness to others, or charm.

  22. “‘Twas the middle of the work day for you, yet you somehow felt compelled to visit this poor site.”

    Day or night, Phoenician in a Time of Romans’ psychological neediness knows no clock. Remember his wee hours visits to your site wherein he “confided” that he had to be quiet while typing lest he wake his bed mate from its slobbering slumbers?

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