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	<description>President Obama’s real problem was that he ran his mouth, and issued an empty threat. Now, actually doing the right thing in Syria looks like weakness, and the President’s word cannot be either trusted or even taken seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.journal14.com/2012/12/15/from-around-the-blogroll-20/comment-page-2/#comment-83457</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WW is outraged!

&lt;blockquote&gt;So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If your &quot;solution&quot; to problems is to simply ignore the law and the Constitution, because they are not fast enough, I assure you, I could solve many, many problems under such conditions.  No evidence against the gang-bangers?  Doesn&#039;t matter, we can just lock &#039;em up -- or kill them; simpler, quicker and easier that way -- because we know who they are, and we don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; due process of law getting in the way!  Oh, wait, that Hispanic looking guy, I&#039;ll bet he&#039;s an illegal immigrant.  We can just nab him and ship him off to Mexico, no questions asked, right?

And here&#039;s one you might like.  That wicked F&lt;small&gt;IRST&lt;/small&gt; S&lt;small&gt;TREET&lt;/small&gt; J&lt;small&gt;OURNAL&lt;/small&gt;, it keeps trashing good-hearted, innocent people like Susan Rice and our great and noble President; no sense letting that First Amendment get in the way, we&#039;ll just have Eric Holder shut the place down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WW is outraged!</p>
<blockquote><p>So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?</p></blockquote>
<p>If your &#8220;solution&#8221; to problems is to simply ignore the law and the Constitution, because they are not fast enough, I assure you, I could solve many, many problems under such conditions.  No evidence against the gang-bangers?  Doesn&#8217;t matter, we can just lock &#8216;em up &#8212; or kill them; simpler, quicker and easier that way &#8212; because we know who they are, and we don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; due process of law getting in the way!  Oh, wait, that Hispanic looking guy, I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;s an illegal immigrant.  We can just nab him and ship him off to Mexico, no questions asked, right?</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s one you might like.  That wicked F<small>IRST</small> S<small>TREET</small> J<small>OURNAL</small>, it keeps trashing good-hearted, innocent people like Susan Rice and our great and noble President; no sense letting that First Amendment get in the way, we&#8217;ll just have Eric Holder shut the place down.</p>
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		<title>By: DNW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot; How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into ...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean?</description>
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&#8221; How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into &#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Does anyone know what that is supposed to mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://www.journal14.com/2012/12/15/from-around-the-blogroll-20/comment-page-2/#comment-83424</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenician in a time of Romans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals’ aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps, Dana, you might refrain from trying to put words about &quot;what liberals want&quot; as if they came from the mouths of real people rather than strawmen you have constructed.

Given your past history where you completely failed to deal with criticisms of your economic understanding when pointed at resources that can help you, you appear to have no interest in learning what those who disagree with you are saying, preferring to rail against the imaginary voices in your head instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals’ aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.</i></p>
<p>Perhaps, Dana, you might refrain from trying to put words about &#8220;what liberals want&#8221; as if they came from the mouths of real people rather than strawmen you have constructed.</p>
<p>Given your past history where you completely failed to deal with criticisms of your economic understanding when pointed at resources that can help you, you appear to have no interest in learning what those who disagree with you are saying, preferring to rail against the imaginary voices in your head instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Koolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into our gun laws which make available the weapons involved as well?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

YEAH! PRESIDENT OBAMA -- REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT UNILATERALLY!! NOW!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into our gun laws which make available the weapons involved as well?</p></blockquote>
<p>YEAH! PRESIDENT OBAMA &#8212; REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT UNILATERALLY!! NOW!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wagonwheel</title>
		<link>http://www.journal14.com/2012/12/15/from-around-the-blogroll-20/comment-page-2/#comment-83408</link>
		<dc:creator>Wagonwheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headline on today&#039;s HuffPost:

&lt;blockquote&gt;THE VIOLENCE NEVER STOPS: 4 Dead In Horrific Murder-Suicide... Man Shot To Death In New Orleans... 2 Killed In Penn. City... Man Shot Dead In Truck... Another Gunned Down In Street... Nightclub Shooting Kills Man&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into our gun laws which make available the weapons involved as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline on today&#8217;s HuffPost:</p>
<blockquote><p>THE VIOLENCE NEVER STOPS: 4 Dead In Horrific Murder-Suicide&#8230; Man Shot To Death In New Orleans&#8230; 2 Killed In Penn. City&#8230; Man Shot Dead In Truck&#8230; Another Gunned Down In Street&#8230; Nightclub Shooting Kills Man</p></blockquote>
<p>How long is it that we will have to put up with this, before we study and mental illnesses and look into our gun laws which make available the weapons involved as well?</p>
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		<title>By: DNW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask? &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No money left for the diagnosable mentally ill; it&#039;s all being spent on entitlements and transfer payments, and finally, on welfare for the morally ill.

But the question of principle, as to why the limits of my political and moral rights should be defined by a mental incompetent such as Adam Lanza, or a moral incompetent like you say your grandfather was, is a bit of a logical puzzle you lefties never do forthrightly address.

You just get strident, emotional, and start pimping your &quot;solidarity&quot; meme in the hopes of justifying your draining the life out of others through a rhetorical sleight of hand. 

That was famously Christopher Hitchen&#039;s tactic ... before he drank himself into a hospital bed: to proclaim that life was meaningless, about no more than distractions, but that we were evolved for solidarity, and so ... something or other about something or other ... 

The real question, is why any self-respecting (much less God fearing) person, any person truly concerned with protecting the innocent, any person not fundamentally a values nihilist, veiled or otherwise, would consent to socially and legally bind their fate, to the fate of such a futile organism?

It makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask? &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>No money left for the diagnosable mentally ill; it&#8217;s all being spent on entitlements and transfer payments, and finally, on welfare for the morally ill.</p>
<p>But the question of principle, as to why the limits of my political and moral rights should be defined by a mental incompetent such as Adam Lanza, or a moral incompetent like you say your grandfather was, is a bit of a logical puzzle you lefties never do forthrightly address.</p>
<p>You just get strident, emotional, and start pimping your &#8220;solidarity&#8221; meme in the hopes of justifying your draining the life out of others through a rhetorical sleight of hand. </p>
<p>That was famously Christopher Hitchen&#8217;s tactic &#8230; before he drank himself into a hospital bed: to proclaim that life was meaningless, about no more than distractions, but that we were evolved for solidarity, and so &#8230; something or other about something or other &#8230; </p>
<p>The real question, is why any self-respecting (much less God fearing) person, any person truly concerned with protecting the innocent, any person not fundamentally a values nihilist, veiled or otherwise, would consent to socially and legally bind their fate, to the fate of such a futile organism?</p>
<p>It makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: DNW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, responding to the New Zealand Neurotic:


&lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;blockquote&gt; Perhaps, Dana, no-one sane is interested in taking advice on “what liberals should do” from a wingnut who is not only often wrong, but an outright weasel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals’ aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I await your learned response.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Say Dana, while you are awaiting more &quot;learned&quot; commentary on Alaric, or on the authors, text, and meaning of the U.S. Constitution, you might try constructing that time-line comparing the incomparable Ms Marcotte&#039;s steady withdrawal into a more exclusive and less welcoming form of madness, and Phoenician in a time of Romans&#039; attention seeking re-appearance on your blog.

Or maybe it&#039;s all just an approximate coincidence.

By the way, while looking for the exact date of the Pandagon mutation, I came across that Phoenician-in-a-time-of-Romans related rape controversy material to which you and Eric were referring. 

The brouhaha apparently took place a while ago. But even reflected through Internet commentary, his apparent defense of sodomitic bondage looks to be pretty disgusting stuff.

God Almighty. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.journalfen.net/community/otf_wank/520619.html?thread=38108843&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If this is the kind of stuff the miscreant Phoenician in a time or Romans&lt;/a&gt; has been occupying himself with over the last years, it is no wonder he&#039;s so awfully and hopelessly twisted and empty.

It&#039;s worse than any casual or even attentive reader here could have known.

Dump him, Dana. He&#039;s a sick nihilist; twisted, and poisonous. You&#039;ll get other lefties to comment. Perhaps even sane ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, responding to the New Zealand Neurotic:</p>
<blockquote><blockquote> Perhaps, Dana, no-one sane is interested in taking advice on “what liberals should do” from a wingnut who is not only often wrong, but an outright weasel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals’ aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.</p>
<p>I await your learned response.</p></blockquote>
<p>Say Dana, while you are awaiting more &#8220;learned&#8221; commentary on Alaric, or on the authors, text, and meaning of the U.S. Constitution, you might try constructing that time-line comparing the incomparable Ms Marcotte&#8217;s steady withdrawal into a more exclusive and less welcoming form of madness, and Phoenician in a time of Romans&#8217; attention seeking re-appearance on your blog.</p>
<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s all just an approximate coincidence.</p>
<p>By the way, while looking for the exact date of the Pandagon mutation, I came across that Phoenician-in-a-time-of-Romans related rape controversy material to which you and Eric were referring. </p>
<p>The brouhaha apparently took place a while ago. But even reflected through Internet commentary, his apparent defense of sodomitic bondage looks to be pretty disgusting stuff.</p>
<p>God Almighty. <a href="http://www.journalfen.net/community/otf_wank/520619.html?thread=38108843" rel="nofollow">If this is the kind of stuff the miscreant Phoenician in a time or Romans</a> has been occupying himself with over the last years, it is no wonder he&#8217;s so awfully and hopelessly twisted and empty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worse than any casual or even attentive reader here could have known.</p>
<p>Dump him, Dana. He&#8217;s a sick nihilist; twisted, and poisonous. You&#8217;ll get other lefties to comment. Perhaps even sane ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Koolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed! We must grant Dictator Obama immediate dictatorial powers because our emotions are paramount!

(Oh, and &quot;stupid absolutism&quot; is a personal attack. But Perry knew that already. Par for the course.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem? How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed! We must grant Dictator Obama immediate dictatorial powers because our emotions are paramount!</p>
<p>(Oh, and &#8220;stupid absolutism&#8221; is a personal attack. But Perry knew that already. Par for the course.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wagonwheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wagonwheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;But worse, why do we have weapons like this Bushmaster Combat Assault Rifle available to the public? They should be banned. If banned, then Lanza’s mom would not have owned one, and perhaps there would have been fewer fatalities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As noted here, the Bushmaster M-4 used by Adam Lanza would not have been banned under the now-expired (and completely unconstitutional anyway) 1994 “assault” rifle ban.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I understand that, Mr Editor.  But Adam Lanza has just demonstrated, dramatically, how easy it is to use this weapon, which was designed for military combat, to easily kill multiple American people.  The First Amendment, when written, did not contemplate such a deadly weapon, nor could fathom the power of such a weapon in the hands of an apparently deranged individual.  

So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem?  How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?  

You are damn right that I am impatient, not unduly!  Were it one of your daughters a victim, I claim you would be equally impatient.  True?  If not true, then you have another problem needing attention!</description>
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<blockquote><p>But worse, why do we have weapons like this Bushmaster Combat Assault Rifle available to the public? They should be banned. If banned, then Lanza’s mom would not have owned one, and perhaps there would have been fewer fatalities.</p></blockquote>
<p>As noted here, the Bushmaster M-4 used by Adam Lanza would not have been banned under the now-expired (and completely unconstitutional anyway) 1994 “assault” rifle ban.</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand that, Mr Editor.  But Adam Lanza has just demonstrated, dramatically, how easy it is to use this weapon, which was designed for military combat, to easily kill multiple American people.  The First Amendment, when written, did not contemplate such a deadly weapon, nor could fathom the power of such a weapon in the hands of an apparently deranged individual.  </p>
<p>So you say we need to wait to amend the Constitution to solve this problem?  How many more murders must we now tolerate in order to live up to your stupid absolutism, and to wait for the restoration of health care funding in order to deal with the mentally ill, I ask?  </p>
<p>You are damn right that I am impatient, not unduly!  Were it one of your daughters a victim, I claim you would be equally impatient.  True?  If not true, then you have another problem needing attention!</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Phoenician opined:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If our friends on the left believe that to be the case, then they should offer the constitutional amendment I suggested, or something similar&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps, Dana, no-one sane is interested in taking advice on “what liberals should do” from a wingnut who is not only often wrong, but an outright weasel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals&#039; aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I await your learned response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Phoenician opined:</p>
<blockquote><blockquote>If our friends on the left believe that to be the case, then they should offer the constitutional amendment I suggested, or something similar</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps, Dana, no-one sane is interested in taking advice on “what liberals should do” from a wingnut who is not only often wrong, but an outright weasel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps in your next comment, you might add something actually substantive about what course of action you believe should be taken to achieve the liberals&#8217; aims concerning gun control without tackling the fact that our Constitution clearly states that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.</p>
<p>I await your learned response.</p>
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