Open Thread: Imagine, if you will, . . .

. . . that your favored candidate loses the Presidential race, and that Congress remains divided, with the Republicans controlling the House of Representatives, and the Democrats controlling the Senate. What do you believe will happen, generally speaking, over the next four years? Your Editor would like a realistic assessment of what you believe will happen.

On Saturday, I will open a similar thread, projecting what you believe will happen if your favored candidate wins.

The Comments & Conduct Policy will be strictly enforced on this thread.

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  1. I agree with Yorkshire about the preview in NYC post Sandy.

    If my candidate President Obama wins, which appears likely, and if the Senate remains Dem, which appears likely as well, the Republican Party will take stock, realizing that their strategy did not work, especially regarding the role which the Tea Party played.

    This will involve a focus on the Tea Party wing, with an effort to bring them back into a more traditional Republican Party, the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan would be a good, fresh start.

    Hopefully, Republicans will understand that divided government acts to make matters worse, or at least not better for the American people.

    I predict that both parties will move toward working together again, because our future is at stake due to our debt. I expect at first Republican leaders will be silent as they readdress their priorities and how to achieve them by the give and take which is part of our political tradition. Thus they will agree to kick the sequester down the road for a few months.

    I believe that looking back, we will see these last four years as an aberration, one which teaches us that both parties need to work together to address and act upon these very serious economic issues. Have Barack Obama and Chris Christie given us a model?

    I sense that the Tea Party approach is fading, which, if true, the down ballot election results will so demonstrate. This then should reduce a major road block which we have had for four years, especially the last two.

    Revising the sequestration will be the first order of priority, which will be an initial test for the new environment.

    If Romney should win, this would reinvigorate the Tea Party, because they will take credit, thus making governing for him and his team an extremely difficult challenge. For this reason above all others, this negative is the main reason why it would be the next disaster for our nation. Romney would be in a tug of war with the far right of his party, given that he is by nature really a moderate Republican, a facet of Romney which he has had to hide in this campaign. It is this tension which has made it difficult for Romney to campaign more effectively, because he basically has had to talk out of both sides of his mouth, making him appear awfully foolish too much of the time. He hasn’t even given an interview in the last 22 days. His selection of Paul Ryan had done him much more harm than good. His supporters have experienced this same tension, causing many of them to be more adamant, more black and white on the issues, than they would normally be.

    I actually think it will be a relief to some Conservatives to have Obama win the election, because I sense that in spite of their radical rhetoric, that deep down they know that we cannot continue like this. These Conservatives are Ronald Reagan Conservatives; they would be comfortable returning to that mantra. John Boehner sticks out in my mind as being a Ronald Reagan Conservative, so are people like John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, and Robert Portman.

    We’ll know in a few days, after which we will witness extremely important political and congressional events taking place.

  2. I actually think it will be a relief to some Conservatives to have Obama win the election

    Yeah, like we really want four mour years of trillion dollar deficits and high unemployment. The American people recognize trash when they see it, and election day will be when we take out the garbage for good. It will be nice to have grown-ups back in charge again.

  3. This will involve a focus on the Tea Party wing, with an effort to bring them back into a more traditional Republican Party, the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan would be a good, fresh start.

    Ronald Reagan was the original Tea Partier, and Sarah Palin is his rightful heir. He cut taxes and defeated the Evil Empire, both things which left wingers hated. He was our mighty sword, and had you left wingers scurrying away like frightened little rats.

  4. If my candidate President Obama wins, which appears likely,

    LOL … this is the same guy who mocked me using a Heritage Foundation source the other day now using Mother Jones as a source for predicting that Dictator Obama will win the election???

    You just can’t make this stuff up. [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy, which is being stringently enforced for this post. -- Editor]

  5. Our Editor made the following request:

    Imagine, if you will, . . .
    Posted by Editor on 1 November 2012, 8:55 pm
    . . . that your favored candidate loses the Presidential race, and that Congress remains divided, with the Republicans controlling the House of Representatives, and the Democrats controlling the Senate. What do you believe will happen, generally speaking, over the next four years? Your Editor would like a realistic assessment of what you believe will happen.

    Did koolo and Eric take the request seriously and generate a serious response to the question? No! Instead they used my response as a vehicle to personally attack and mock. Speaks volumes!

    That said, I now criticize myself for responding to both today’s and Saturday’s question in the same post. My bad! Therefore, here is the only answer to your request which I should have posted:

    If Romney should win, this would reinvigorate the Tea Party, because they will take credit, thus making governing for him and his team an extremely difficult challenge. For this reason above all others, this negative is the main reason why it would be the next disaster for our nation. Romney would be in a tug of war with the far right of his party, given that he is by nature really a moderate Republican, a facet of Romney which he has had to hide in this campaign. It is this tension which has made it difficult for Romney to campaign more effectively, because he basically has had to talk out of both sides of his mouth, making him appear awfully foolish too much of the time. He hasn’t even given an interview in the last 22 days. His selection of Paul Ryan had done him much more harm than good. His supporters have experienced this same tension, causing many of them to be more adamant, more black and white on the issues, than they would normally be.

    I actually think it will be a relief to some Conservatives to have Obama win the election, because I sense that in spite of their radical rhetoric, that deep down they know that we cannot continue like this. These Conservatives are Ronald Reagan Conservatives; they would be comfortable returning to that mantra. John Boehner sticks out in my mind as being a Ronald Reagan Conservative, so are people like John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Lindsey Graham, and Robert Portman.

    We’ll know in a few days, after which we will witness extremely important political and congressional events taking place.

    When your Saturday topic appears, I’ll craft a response to that topic.

  6. Did koolo and Eric take the request seriously and generate a serious response to the question? No! Instead they used my response as a vehicle to personally attack and mock. Speaks volumes!

    [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    If Dictator Obama wins Tuesday and all else remains the same, expect then massive gains by the GOP in 2014 in the House and Senate (with the GOP gaining control of the latter). This will be because Dictator Obama will further entrench himself as the emerging dictator that he is.

  7. If Dictator Obama wins Tuesday and all else remains the same, expect then massive gains by the GOP in 2014 in the House and Senate (with the GOP gaining control of the latter). This will be because Dictator Obama will further entrench himself as the emerging dictator that he is.

    I don’t think Chris Christie would agree with your characterization of President Obama, koolo, nor would Colin Powell or Mayor Bloomberg!

  8. One cannot take another seriously when he is a serial liar and then refuses to acknowledge such. Indeed, he even digs in further, claiming others are the unreliable ones.

    Moreover, in addition to your initial off-topic response, koolo, you have also refused to honor the request of our Editor for civility in this thread. Not very impressive!

  9. Moreover, in addition to your initial off-topic response, koolo, you have also refused to honor the request of our Editor for civility in this thread. Not very impressive!

    I haven’t? Citation please!!

    I don’t think Chris Christie would agree with your characterization of President Obama, koolo, nor would Colin Powell or Mayor Bloomberg!

    So what? Bloomberg is just like him, for one. But it’s not surprising that you think all Republicans (Bloomberg is an indepedent) should think alike. That’s the progressive mantra, after all.

  10. But it’s not surprising that you think all Republicans (Bloomberg is an indepedent) should think alike. That’s the progressive mantra, after all.

    Bloomberg is a Fascist. A crime to sell 17 ounce Pepsi? Continuing to push an Anti-Second gun-grabber agenda? Bloomberg is a Fascist.

    And Fascists, “Progressives”, Socialists, Communists have been proven to all be from the same anti-American tree.

  11. Colin Powell

    Colin Powell is a RINO. This is how he shows his loyalty to the Party that gave him much honor and privilege. He had a role in the Valerie Plame scandal, he stood by and did nothing while Scooter Libby took the fall for what his own associate had done.

  12. Why are you a left winger, Perry? Why should we compromise with this alien ideology? What do we even need you left wingers for? You are useless to us. All you have to offer are un-American ideas like big government, high taxes, dependency, and partial birth abortion.

  13. I am curious to know the thoughts of our Editor concerning this thread on which he made a special request, basically ignored by several of his fellow so-called Conservative commenters. Not that there is anything new with their personal attack mode rhetoric on here, but to dishonor a request of our Editor in this special thread?

    American Conservatives in the tradition of Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, and William F Buckley Jr did/do not behave in this manner, thus indicative of how far from the tradition these people have moved politically. Are koolo, John H., and Eric the modern day John Birchers who were denounced by the traditional Conservatives of the day?

  14. “. . that your favored candidate loses the Presidential race, and that Congress remains divided, with the Republicans controlling the House of Representatives, and the Democrats controlling the Senate. What do you believe will happen, generally speaking, over the next four years? “

    I cannot predict what would happen to “the economy” let’s say, but what should happen if Obama wins, and however the economic situation then develops, is that those who are interested in preserving and maintaining their liberties and their life options should begin establishing private parallel social instituitions to those already infested and coopted by the the morally deconstructed bureaucrat and client classes.

    Such institutions might at least temporarily, enable them to advance their well-being without at the same time working against their own interests by inadvertantly dragging along those giggling and grasping nihilists of the left.

    Now, this won’t be as straightforward as it once might have been. Since as we all know the organisms of the left have had for some years now their quivering antennae extended for any hint that those upon whom they rely for their daily bread, may be seeking informal ways to distance themselves from the selfsame leftists’ reach. It’s part a basic lefty modus that ideologically directs toward the dominance of all public institutions and eventually all private associative structures.

    And as we all know – or at least all us who are familiar with the proclaimed ideology of the left and thus their long term aims – the broader thrust of the leftist project entails the eventual abolition of the legitimacy of the concept of the private per se; and its replacement with an ideology of universal identification and sacrifice, and the mediation of all individual exchanges through the instrumentality of a state placed in the service of a bureaucratic managerial class.

    In other words, the leftoids are [in the manner of the paranoiac who eventually stumbles across someone who really doesn't like him] already psychologically primed by their ideology to be on constant lookout for mere signs that you may be planning to excise their dysfunctional lives as much as possible from your “circle of concern” (as they so euphemistically put it). Much less then and given those circumstances, can any overt attempts at establishing new and independent networks of ideological consensus, and mutual aid, expect to forever escape their always scanning notice.

    Obama, for example, has made it quite clear in his speeches that his theory of American life involves your open ended existential committment, as a predicate of your human legitimacy, not to a traditionally shared ideal of freedom and self-direction, but to a committment to your sharing a collective and bureaucratically managed fate.

    Will then, alternate institutions work in the long run if and when eventually confronted by a no-limits governing force which sees the very existence of limiting institutions which promote individual self-governance and direction and voluntary association, as an intolerable threat to their unchallanged and totalizing dominance? No. The Catholic Church is already finding that out.

    But, once the collectivist kind are forced to strip off what is left of their human masks in order to leap that final hurdle in order to shut down all avenues of human escape from their appropriative activities, they clearly reveal themselves as the hedonic-nihilist stormtroopers they psychologically are; and any lingering doubts about who and what they really are and want, will vanish, while the moral ground will be simultaneously cleared in a way that it even now isn’t.

    Those then, who seek freedom, will, should Obama be reelected, need to coldly calculate their best interests and their best means of privately preserving or even advancing them with like-minded people; further drawing the ideological lines so deeply in the process, that there will be no doubt as to who, or better, what it is, that stands on the left side of the line panting for control over their life energies, and if it were possible, their very souls.

  15. Hedonism. You have accurately described absolutely every Leftist agenda item with that one single reference, DNW. Everything Leftist resides, ultimately, in hedonism. It cannot be intellectually or rationally denied. To be Leftist is to be Hedonistic. And to be Hedonistic is to be anti-Christian, anti-Providence, anti-Founder, anti-Framer, anti-Constitution, anti-American.

    As proven daily by [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor].

  16. Perry, I began this kindergartener’s thread by yawning at the game of ‘let’s play kindergartner’. It was obvious to me that the stupid game was worthless from the start. And your constant and continuous and incessant attacks against anything and anyone who stands up against the evil of Socialism was fully expected. You can play [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor] all you want. Won’t change the fact that you’re [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    Will the Editor delete comments on his “let’s all be kindergartners” thread? No doubt. Will my comments face the chopping block? No doubt. Will that stop [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    The fact the Editor has chosen to do a “let’s all be kindergartners” post and propose a second “let’s all be kindergartners” post does not change the fact that [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor].

  17. “John Hitchcock says:

    November 2, 2012 at 16:00

    Hedonism. You have accurately described absolutely every Leftist agenda item with that one single reference, DNW. Everything Leftist resides, ultimately, in hedonism. It cannot be intellectually or rationally denied. To be Leftist is to be Hedonistic. And to be Hedonistic is to be anti-Christian, anti-Providence, anti-Founder, anti-Framer, anti-Constitution, anti-American.

    That characteristic is probably at the root of all leftist, or so-called “progressive” [and nihilist] thinking throughout history.

    In this particular context it doen’t refer to a mere fixation on “pleasure” so much (though plenty of leftoids do worship at the well of their own itches) as it does to a reduction of the human organism to a kind of meat-computer operating under the largely unconscious direction of randomly evolved impulses.

    In a purely materialist reality having no objective purpose and no objective normative order, the human “being” is reenvisioned or interpreted in a way that ultimately logically reduces it to the status of a locus of replicating appetites temporarily manifesting in an ultimately chaotic field. If that is, one can even speak of the appetites as having sufficient enough an “identity” to enable us to coherently refer to any particular “locus” as a distinct being.

    Insofar as a “progressive thing” may even be said to exist as a coherent identity then, its identity is manifest in purely “sensuous” (as Marx meant it) terms and expressions. Pointless expressions, but expressions which apparently serve to quiet, for a time, the public cravings of this appetite thing.

    Everything else, not explicitly identical with the ultimately pointless electro-chemical reaction, such as meaning, intention, purpose, or values, is rendered as either epiphenomenal, or completely illusory.

    For the progressive, there really is no meaning, no purpose, no exit, no reason … just transient impulses manifest in an ultimately chaotic and dead-end field; impulses which by convention are assigned to phenomena we recognize well enough through repeated encounters, to call men.

    The progressive focuses on sensuous [again in the sense Marx used it] satisfactions, because for the “progressive thing”, that is the only reality that there is: It’s the only game – albeit one which is temporary and ultimately meaningless and played by undefinable things to no purpose – in town.

    It – whatever it is, if anything – wants it’s itch scratched, and it demands that you accommodate it. That we know. Though why you really should, is anyone’s guess.

  18. I wrote:

    “It’s part a basic lefty modus that ideologically directs toward the dominance of all public institutions and eventually all private associative structures.”

    Real time posting as always. “Arrangements”, would have been a better last word.

  19. I am curious to know the thoughts of our Editor concerning this thread on which he made a special request, basically ignored by several of his fellow so-called Conservative commenters.

    I haven’t followed …? Citation please!! This is the second time I’ve requested that. No citation, then you’re just blowing your usual smoke, Perry. [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    Not that there is anything new with their personal attack mode rhetoric on here, but to dishonor a request of our Editor in this special thread?

    Says the “man” who was given his own blog by the Editor, on the Editor’s own bandwidth, and yet who personally attacks/insults him on virtually a daily basis.

    There is absolutely NO reason why anyone — conservative, independent OR liberal — should take you remotely seriously, Perry. (Just ask Steve Newton [libertarian] and Mike Matthews [liberal] if you don’t believe me.)

    American Conservatives in the tradition of Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, and William F Buckley Jr did/do not behave in this manner, thus indicative of how far from the tradition these people have moved politically. Are koolo, John H., and Eric the modern day John Birchers who were denounced by the traditional Conservatives of the day?

    Says the “man” who invokes liberal conspiracy theories in here on a daily basis. Is Perry like the Occupiers/MoveOn.org-ers/Truthers/radical socialists who were denounced by the traditional liberals of the day?

  20. You know the worst part about being a member of the Birch John Society? The splinters in your butt. [Not if properly sanded and sealed. -- Editor]

    Butt Perry H has to personally attack any and every Conservative on absolutely a daily basis, including threatening a Libertarian/Conservative’s livelihood because Perry H doesn’t like what that Libertarian/Conservative says, and accusing another Conservative of Federal Felony Tax Evasion, again because Perry H doesn’t like what that Conservative has to say.

    Perry H accuses every Conservative of lying, including the Editor and Yorkshire, while Perry H himself has been proven to be [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]. In addition, Perry H has accused a Social Conservative of being a terrorist specifically because that Social Conservative posted real, actual photographs of the results of following Perry H’s Leftist ideology. Photographs the Editor specifically endorsed.

    And yet, Perry H wants to liefully claim he’s an innocent victim. He’s as much an innocent victim as a polio virus.

  21. Perry, you acted in bad faith in your very first comment on this, the Editor’s “let’s all be kindergartners” post. You intentionally threw out lots of red meat bait to trap your mortal enemies, those who actually hold to the US Constitution. And then you cried like the baby you are when those who hew to the US Constitution took the bait and ravaged you.

    [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    To paraphrase Agent Smith, you are the disease and we are the cure. The only problem is…

    You’re not Neo!

  22. John Hitchcock says:

    November 2, 2012 at 17:59

    You know the worst part about being a member of the Birch John Society? The splinters in your butt.

    Butt Perry H has to personally attack any and every Conservative on absolutely a daily basis, including threatening a Libertarian/Conservative’s livelihood because Perry H doesn’t like what that Libertarian/Conservative says, and accusing another Conservative of Federal Felony Tax Evasion, again because Perry H doesn’t like what that Conservative has to say.”

    I hadn’t intended to return to regularly posting messages, and may not quite yet, but I noticed the level of annoyance that was still being manifested at the behaviors of the Old YapBlizzard.

    How long has this futile attempt to reduce his behavior to reason, been going on now? Three or four years?

    It’s obvious that what has been transpiring just beneath the surface all of this time has never been a dispute over means of acheiving agreed upon ends, but a dispute over the ends themselves and what the acceptance of such ends would demand of anyone subject to their regime.

    Again nothing new there … but for some reason the debate is continually presented as if we should assume it were about means for reaching agreed upon ends.

    Now, I’ll place most of the responsibility for this, and for readily defensible reasons, on Perry – as it is easy to see that it is in his interest as the “antagonist”, to make it seem so: specifically in order to superficially justify his “push back” activities.

    After all, if we took his relativistic premises which can establish no objective hierarchy of moral claims seriously, and he were then to come here honestly admitting that what he wanted was a claim on your life just because he thought it would be to his advantage to have such a power, then there would be nothing to actually debate.

    So, in order to preserve a plausible footing in this forum for waging his “war by alternate means” … i.e., a relentless propaganda campaign on behalf of a totalitarian political project, he has to strike a superficially plausible “we are all Americans” pose.

    Of course what he actually means by “American” is revealed when he starts calling anyone with an interest in directing their own life according to our constitutional traditions of limited government, a traitor.

    Does such a person actually have a real interest in seriously analyzing or even arguing on behalf of the rightness of his fundamental assumptions? No, because he cannot himself logically assert with a straightface that his values or aims are right, given his previously announced relativistic foundational assumptions.

    All such a person can do, is to declare that he and many others like him, prefer this or that flavor and that they find the government’s supply of it to be satisfying; and, that if you don’t share their tastes, then you are an outsider, and unwelcome among those esteeming themselves esteeming their so-called “community values”.

    If on the other hand, such a person actually wanted to make a moral imperative argument on behalf of his so-called community values, and regarding your putatively objective obligation to serve them, instead of just blithering nonsensically with a litany of disjointed and ill founded assertions; then, he would have alredy done so, instead of letting his very own blog, readily available for posting just such arguments during this election season, lay fallow these last three months.

    His argument then, isn’t really about whether what Romney proposes is objectively right or wrong, or even likely efficacious, but whether Romney is enough “like him” to also wish to coerce the innocent into a government harness.

    No wonder there is no actual argument. How could you possibly hope to use reason in order to persuade anyone to accept being reduced to such a degrading, and pointless, state of existence?

  23. John Hitchcock says:

    November 2, 2012 at 17:59

    You know the worst part about being a member of the Birch John Society? The splinters in your butt.

    Butt Perry H has to personally attack any and every Conservative on absolutely a daily basis, including threatening a Libertarian/Conservative’s livelihood because Perry H doesn’t like what that Libertarian/Conservative says, and accusing another Conservative of Federal Felony Tax Evasion, again because Perry H doesn’t like what that Conservative has to say.”

    I hadn’t intended to return to regularly posting messages, and may not quite yet, but I noticed the level of annoyance that was still being manifested at the behaviors of the Old YapBlizzard.

    How long has this futile attempt to reduce his behavior to reason, been going on now? Three or four years?

    It’s obvious that what has been transpiring just beneath the surface all of this time has never been a dispute over means of achieving agreed upon ends, but a dispute over the ends themselves and what such ends would demand of anyone subject to their regime.

    Again nothing new there … but for some reason the debate is continually presented as if we should assume it were about the means for reaching agreed upon ends.

    Now, I’ll place most of the responsibility for this, and for readily defensible reasons, on Perry – as it is easy to see that it is in his interest as the “antagonist”, to make it seem so, in order to superficially justify his “push back” activities.

    After all, if we took his relativistic premises – which can establish no objective hierarchy of moral claims – seriously, and if he were then to come here honestly admitting that what he wanted was a claim on your life just because he thought it would be to his advantage to have such power, then there would be nothing to actually debate.

    So, in order to preserve a plausible footing in this forum for waging his social “war by alternate means” … i.e., a relentless propaganda campaign on behalf of a totalitarian political project, he has to strike a superficially plausible “we are all Americans” pose.

    Of course what he actually means by “American” is revealed when he starts calling anyone with an interest in directing their own life according to our constitutional traditions of limited government, a traitor.

    Does such a person actually have a real interest in seriously analyzing or even arguing on behalf of the rightness of his fundamental assumptions? No, because he cannot assert with a straight-face that his values or aims are in fact right, given his previously announced relativistic foundational assumptions.

    All such a person can do, is to declare that he and many others like him, prefer this or that flavor, and that they find the government’s supply of it to them to be satisfying; and, that if you don’t share their tastes, then you are an outsider, and unwelcome among those esteeming themselves esteeming their so-called “community values”.

    If on the other hand, such a person actually wanted to make a moral imperative argument on behalf of his so-called community values, and regarding your putatively objective obligation to serve them, instead of just blithering nonsensically with a litany of disjointed and ill founded assertions, then he would have already done so, instead of letting his very own blog, readily available for posting just such arguments during this election season, lay fallow these last three months.

    His argument then, isn’t really about whether what Romney proposes is objectively right or wrong, or even likely efficacious, but whether Romney is enough “like him” to also wish to coerce the innocent into a government harness.

    No wonder there is no actual argument. How could you possibly hope to use reason in order to persuade someone to accept being reduced to such a degrading and pointless state of existence?

  24. Hi,

    It occurs to me that I may have repeated a message that might have gone into moderation originally. The messages would be substantially the same and there is no reason that if they were in fact sent at all, that both should appear.

    I don’t care which shows up, or in fact if even one does.

    But if they did indeed go out, and if they can be released from moderation, please release only one. Even I couldn’t stand to read two posts of my own on the same topic in virtually the same words.

  25. It is noteworthy and quite telling that koolo, John H., Eric, and to some extent DNW, cannot help yourselves, cannot exert the self-discipline to focus on the topic which our Editor introduced, for which he asked for defined responses. What will our Editor’s response be to this behavior, and to the topic which he raised?

  26. Here is how DNW responded to our Editor’s request, before getting bogged down in his usual rhetoric:

    I cannot predict what would happen to “the economy” let’s say, but what should happen if Obama wins, and however the economic situation then develops, is that those who are interested in preserving and maintaining their liberties and their life options should begin establishing private parallel social instituitions to those already infested and coopted by the the morally deconstructed bureaucrat and client classes.

    Such institutions might at least temporarily, enable them to advance their well-being without at the same time working against their own interests by inadvertantly dragging along those giggling and grasping nihilists of the left.

    Now, this won’t be as straightforward as it once might have been. Since as we all know the organisms of the left have had for some years now their quivering antennae extended for any hint that those upon whom they rely for their daily bread, may be seeking informal ways to distance themselves from the selfsame leftists’ reach. It’s part a basic lefty modus that ideologically directs toward the dominance of all public institutions and eventually all private associative structures.

    Translation: Accelerate the polarization and divisions in his party and in his country.

    A divided nation will not survive, DNW. Of all people, as knowledgeable as you seem to be, I would think you would know that. Or maybe you do know that, and are wishing for our demise. Is that it, DNW?

  27. Long day at work, followed by a long drive.

    Following the initial premises, if the results of the 2012 election leaves us with virtually the same government as did the 2010 elections, I predict that some good will occur, namely, that very little will get done. None of President Obama’s major initiatives will be passed by the House of Representatives, though he will probably get some smaller, non-controversial things through. My guess is that both sides will blink when approaching the so-called “fiscal cliff,” with the 2011 tax rates extended, plus some very minor cuts in spending, and both sides will tell us what a great and mighty thing they accomplished. And, of course, the FY2013 deficit will exceed a trillion dollars again.

    Justice Ruth Ginsberg, who is not in the best of health, will retire, allowing President Obama to pick another very liberal Justice, and the Republicans will not have the courage to filibuster that appointment.

    President Obama will come up with some sort of face-saving arrangement, pull our troops out of Afghanistan, and within eight months, the Taliban will be back in full control. Girls will be kicked out of schools, and the most stringent shari’a law will be reimposed. Israel, realizing that there is no American partner interested in using anything other than words against the Iranian nuclear program, will surprise the world with a wholly innovative attack which greatly damages the Iranian nuclear program, and the United States will join other nations in the United Nations General Assembly in condemning the Israeli action.

    The economy will very slowly improve, primarily because the Republicans will prevent President Obama from meddling in it too much. However, there will be an increase in burdensome regulations, to the extent of the President’s executive order authority.

    ObaminableCare will crash rather spectacularly. If the so-called “doctor fix” isn’t put in place, physicians will drop Medicare and Medicaid patients in droves, because reimbursement by the government will be far, far below the costs of treatment; if the Congress does pass the “doc fix,” ObaminableCare costs will skyrocket, destroying any claims of fiscal control or restraint. In addition, the insurance costs we were all told would fall, will rise at far faster rates, and an increasing number of companies will conclude that their only reasonable option is to drop health insurance coverage and pay the “fine” imposed, which is far lower than the insurance costs would be. The Democrats actually hoped for this all along, believing that such would open the door to the only universal coverage plan left, single-payer, but the Republicans will never allow that to pass.

    Budget deficits will remain in the trillion dollar range, bringing us to a national debt of around $22 trillion at the end of President Obama’s second term. We will either be in another recession, or in a growth cycle so slow that it is lower than what population growth requires to maintain our standard of living, so Americans in general will slowly get poorer. Because of austerity measures in Europe, by 2014-2015 the European economies will have weathered the rough part, and begin much stronger growth cycles, the euro will strengthen significantly against the dollar, and OPEC will start demanding payment in euros; if that does occur, count on the US economy to fall into a significant recession, as the exchange costs for imported oil will wind up doubling the cost of fuel. President Obama, of course, will respond by placing even more potential oil exploration areas off limits.

    The Republicans will gain seats in the House, and take the majority in the Senate in the 2014 elections, because President Obama’s performance will continue as it has been for the past four years: completely miserable. By 2016, no Democrat will have a snowball’s chance of winning the White House, as President Obama will be regarded as the worst President in our history. Unfortunately, no matter what Republican is elected, eight years under President Obama will have so thoroughly fornicated up our economy and our finances that the new Republican President will have little chance of fixing things.

  28. American Conservatives in the tradition of Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, and William F Buckley Jr did/do not behave in this manner, thus indicative of how far from the tradition these people have moved politically.

    Oh please! Back when they were alive, you left wingers hated their guts and slandered them at every opportunity. The Left even went so far as to run an ad claiming Goldwater wanted to start a nuclear war!

    Face it: you left wingers hate our guts. You are our enemy. You want Total War with us. In your arrogance, you think you are morally superior to us, even though you have no morals. Well, if it’s war you want, then war you shall get! We will win, and you will lose.

  29. A divided nation will not survive, DNW.

    And who divided this nation? The left wing, with their godless, un-American views. The best option to avoid this is for the left to surrender, and then let the country heal itself.

  30. ObaminableCare will crash rather spectacularly. If the so-called “doctor fix” isn’t put in place, physicians will drop Medicare and Medicaid patients in droves, because reimbursement by the government will be far, far below the costs of treatment; if the Congress does pass the “doc fix,” ObaminableCare costs will skyrocket, destroying any claims of fiscal control or restraint. In addition, the insurance costs we were all told would fall, will rise at far faster rates, and an increasing number of companies will conclude that their only reasonable option is to drop health insurance coverage and pay the “fine” imposed, which is far lower than the insurance costs would be. The Democrats actually hoped for this all along, believing that such would open the door to the only universal coverage plan left, single-payer, but the Republicans will never allow that to pass.

    Obaminable Care has nothing to do with Health Care and Everything to do with control over us. First off healthcare will be rationed. And for Doctor-Patient confidentiality, it will be IRS & HH&S control of Doctor and Patient. Wasn’t that something like living in the old Soviet Union? Remember Dear Leader was well mentored by Commies from a child as well as his university, and Chicago years.

  31. Dana, did you see Paul Rincon’s article in the BBC’s Science News about self-healing concrete?

    Experimental concrete that patches up cracks by itself is to undergo outdoor testing.

    The concrete contains limestone-producing bacteria, which are activated by corrosive rainwater working its way into the structure.

    The new material could potentially increase the service life of the concrete – with considerable cost savings as a result.

    The work is taking place at Delft Technical University, the Netherlands.

    It is the brainchild of microbiologist Henk Jonkers and concrete technologist Eric Schlangen.

    If all goes well, Dr Jonkers says they could start the process of commercialising the system in 2-3 years.

    Concrete is the world’s most widely used building material. But it is prone to cracks, which means that structures need to be substantially reinforced with steel.

    “Micro-cracks” are an expected part of the hardening process and do not directly cause strength loss. Fractures with a width of about 0.2mm are allowed under norms used by the concrete industry.

    But over time, water – along with aggressive chemicals in it – gets into these cracks and corrodes the concrete.

    Longer life

    “For durability reasons – in order to improve the service life of the construction – it is important to get these micro-cracks healed,” Dr Jonkers told BBC News.

    Bacterial spores and the nutrients they will need to feed on are added as granules into the concrete mix. But water is the missing ingredient required for the microbes to grow.

    Concrete is the world’s most popular building material, but cracking is a problem So the spores remain dormant until rainwater works its way into the cracks and activates them. The harmless bacteria – belonging to the Bacillus genus – then feed on the nutrients to produce limestone…

    All of which raises an obvious question, which I’ll leave to the experts.

  32. It is noteworthy and quite telling that koolo, John H., Eric, and to some extent DNW, cannot help yourselves, cannot exert the self-discipline to focus on the topic which our Editor introduced, for which he asked for defined responses. What will our Editor’s response be to this behavior, and to the topic which he raised?

    It is noteworthy that, after having been thoroughly shredded with cites exposing his LIES, Perry then quickly claims I violated the Editor’s request on this thread. Whereupon I asked him “where?” No cite has ever been provided … after two requests. This — from the “man” who constantly demands sources.

    But what can you expect from a “man” who, when he cannot call you out for “personal attacks,” resorts to calling you a “stalker” and “bully” — merely for responding to his radical leftist posts? Isn’t this the same thing as Perry saying he “pushes back?”

    Of course it is. And Perry remains a [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]r. FACT.

  33. It is noteworthy that, after having been thoroughly shredded with cites exposing his LIES, Perry then quickly claims I violated the Editor’s request on this thread. Whereupon I asked him “where?” No cite has ever been provided … after two requests. This — from the “man” who constantly demands sources.

    There is an oft-repeated error made by certain right-wing absolutist ideologues on here, like koolo, John H, and Eric, that a disagreement translates to “serial lying”. Moreover, they usually express their charge without citing the specific issue. Thus, they convince and reinforce themselves, but no others. It’s all kind of weird!

    And here we have the classical excuse from [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]:

    Of course it is. And Perry remains a mega-crybaby hypocrite of the highest order. FACT.

    [Personal threat deleted; threats to another's livelihood will not be tolerated, period. Personal insults are one thing, and have been tolerated for far too long, though I have been enforcing policy on this thread, but no commenter will be allowed to threaten another's employment, marriage, liberty or anything else, on this site. -- Editor]

  34. Or, koolo, you could change your behavior and demonstrate that you have a better side which accounts for and acknowledges differences in opinion and ideology, then counters them in vigorous debate void of the incessant bullying. I think you have it in you to do that, do you?

  35. There is an oft-repeated error made by certain right-wing absolutist ideologues on here, like koolo, John H, and Eric, that a disagreement translates to “serial lying”. Moreover, they usually express their charge without citing the specific issue. Thus, they convince and reinforce themselves, but no others. It’s all kind of weird!

    No, what’s weird is your perpetual “sudden loss of memory” which is always convenient. Here, I’ll spell it out again for the mentally deficient: You LIED about Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan yesterday (all w/o cites, too, BTW) which I clearly showed were LIES. With cites. IOW, [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. It is one thing to document a particular action, which remains within the parameters of debate; it is another to engage in name calling -- Editor].

    [Characterization and threat to employment deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

    And here we have yet another completely unveiled threat to my livelihood merely because [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor] cannot stand the fact that people (like me) engage him in precisely the same manner in which he engages others. I’m a “monster,” eh? Well, only real monsters make threats when they can’t stand being made to look foolish in an Internet political forum. You’re exactly like those other “progressive” hoodlums who’ve “scatted” conservative-leaning bloggers merely because they didn’t like their blog posts.

    How very Stalinesque and Maoist of them. And you, Perry.

  36. Or, koolo, you could change your behavior and demonstrate that you have a better side which accounts for and acknowledges differences in opinion and ideology, then counters them in vigorous debate void of the incessant bullying. I think you have it in you to do that, do you?

    We’ve been through this before. I have clearly stated that if you could somehow muster up what you want ME to do, I certainly would oblige. But you don’t. And never do.

    Again, when I started commenting here, I was polite to you. However, because I confined most of my comments to refuting just you, you labeled me a “stalker” and a “bully.’ IOW, you don’t want mere “acknowledgement of differences in opinion and ideology” and “counters in vigorous debate.” You want to be able to have your cake and eat it too. You’re supposed to be allowed to “push back,” but this isn’t permitted by others towards you. And you seriously wonder why I call you a “[Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]” and a “[Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]?” Seriously??

    One would think someone of your physical age would have an emotional demeanor to match it. What a joke. So, keep in mind: [Personal threat deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor] Or, you could grow up and engage in what you always demand of others. You might be surprised at the response.

  37. What is showing up on the news is that Staten Island is looking like Sandy’s version of the lower 9th Ward. Bloomberg, before he finally cancelled the marathon, was diverting help for Staten Island to the marathon.

  38. Mr Editor, my reaction to your response is that I am not surprised. In effect, you have repeated the same message you have been giving consistently since day one of the Obama presidency. It is this pessimism which has clouded the behavior of the Senate and House in their refusal to govern in time of crisis, which in my view has interfered strongly with our recovery, with regard to what we can control ourselves, given the global headwinds which would have faced any President, Repub or Dem alike. Divided we fall!

    I guess it should not be surprising that either of us would not see much room for progress if our opposition candidate wins. Should that be the outcome, for the sake of our nation, we both will need to change in order to find ways to work together, otherwise our nation will continue to face unmet challenges. During the era of the challenge of the Soviet Union, we were able to accomplish that!

  39. No, what’s weird is your perpetual “sudden loss of memory” which is always convenient. Here, I’ll spell it out again for the mentally deficient: You LIED about Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan yesterday (all w/o cites, too, BTW) which I clearly showed were LIES. With cites. IOW, you’re a LIAR.

    Specify the issue, koolo, or shut up!

  40. Specify the issue, koolo, or shut up!

    I’ll never shut up because you want me to; however, since you have a major problem reading and comprehending, AGAIN it was thread from yesterday where you provided the false “facts” about Romney (Jeep ad, “phony” hurricane donation efforts) and Ryan (cleaning dirty dishes). You provided NO cites, whereas I did.

    And then you moved the goal posts at least 50 yds. in your feeble attempt to recover from my thrashing.

  41. Wagonwheel, you’re crossing the line again. Threatening a persons livelihood because of personal anamosity shows your “lack of character” sir. Don’t start using those “vulnerable and impressionable young people”, in libspeak “the children” to justify harming another person. Not cool. Your “concern” should be looking at the type of person you’ve allowed your extreme partisanship to turn you in to. You sound like a Hitleryouth threatening his parents.

  42. BTW Wagonwheel, not liking the political discourse of koolo on this blog does not make him a bad teacher, of poor character or a “monster”. But threatening him does make you a very poor neighbor and citizen.

    You don’t really believe koolo speaks to his students the way he does you, do you? You’re supposed to be a grown-up, act like one. Thicken your skin, grow some gonads and stop threatening everyone with whom you don’t agree. And let the students parents worry about how good or bad a teacher koolo is.

  43. I’ll never shut up because you want me to; however, since you have a major problem reading and comprehending, AGAIN it was thread from yesterday where you provided the false “facts” about Romney (Jeep ad, “phony” hurricane donation efforts) and Ryan (cleaning dirty dishes). You provided NO cites, whereas I did.

    You provided no credible cites, koolo. Citing liars is not credible.

    On the jeep issue: Two auto CEO’s slammed Romney on that lie.

    On the phoney hurricane efforts: This collaborates a video of the event shown in the media.

    On the washing clean “dishes”: The clip in the media showed Ryan doing just that on a stainless steel tray; moreover, the CEO of the charity stated that the event was not authorized.

    These weren’t lies, except in the biased eyes of the beholder. You picked bad examples, if indeed there were any at all. There were not!

    And btw, who were those who had to be censored for being in defiance of our Editor’s request? You were one of them, weren’t you koolo. And this is typical of your conduct on this blog!

  44. You provided no credible cites, koolo. Citing liars is not credible.

    Oh, so now the sources aren’t credible? Except that these non-credible sources just happen to be a helluva lot more credible than the LIES you [re]posted. Oh, and the Washington Post defended Romney’s Jeep ad. I guess they aren’t credible either.

    Romney has two huge TV screens with the Red Cross’s number on them requesting donations. FACT.

    The head of a charity saying Ryan’s appearance “wasn’t authorized” in no way negates the LIE that Ryan was washing “dirty” dishes.

    (And remember — YOU provided NO sources for your LIES.)

    And btw, who were those who had to be censored for being in defiance of our Editor’s request? You were one of them, weren’t you koolo. And this is typical of your conduct on this blog!

    Of course I was. I always and freely admit when ‘ve crossed the line against the Editor’s wishes. That’s the difference between you and me: I admit it and apologize. You deny it despite everyone seeing it, never apologize, and worse, you constantly demean the man who gave you your own blog and bandwidth.

    Who’s the more mature (and better) man, Perry? It ain’t even close. Not by a long shot.

  45. BTW Wagonwheel, not liking the political discourse of koolo on this blog does not make him a bad teacher, of poor character or a “monster”. But threatening him does make you a very poor neighbor and citizen.

    You don’t really believe koolo speaks to his students the way he does you, do you? You’re supposed to be a grown-up, act like one. Thicken your skin, grow some gonads and stop threatening everyone with whom you don’t agree. And let the students parents worry about how good or bad a teacher koolo is.

    This has nothing to do with political discourse, Hoagie. I can take the counters as well as anyone on here. If you don’t see the bullying aspects of koolo’s behavior on here, then that is on you, overlooking it for partisan ideological purposes.

    [Personal threat deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

  46. Hoagie, if you do not recognize koolo’s bullying behavior on here, then that is on you. He is threatening his own livelihood by his behavior, in my view, and it is time for someone to step up. And then you come forward here behaving exactly like koolo, with no specific examples. That’s foolish, Hoagie!

    *Sigh* Now we’re back to “bullying,” which actually means for Perry “I can stand it when someone refutes my ingrained beliefs and throws my own words and behavior right back at me.”

    It’s OK, Hoagie. Perry cannot even acknowledge he was banned in here for his threats. If you can deny that, you can muddle anything.

  47. And yes I do believe koolo treats his students in the same manner he behaves on here. This is my concern. Students typically do not complain to their parents when they are bullied, as we have seen by some who choose the suicide route instead, because they cannot cope.

    Of COURSE you do! You also believe any opposition to Obama is “racist,” and that people who oppose his agenda are “traitors to America.” Just as those beliefs are completely insane, so too is the above stated belief. And now he invokes suicide. Ain’t that special.

    To say that Perry is “[Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]” is a wild understatement.

  48. This has nothing to do with political discourse, Hoagie. I can take the counters as well as anyone on here. If you don’t see the bullying aspects of koolo’s behavior on here, then that is on you, overlooking it for partisan ideological purposes.

    One who says “pushing back” isn’t bullying? One who calls mere political opposition “racist” isn’t bullying? One who calls fellow American “traitors” isn’t bullying?

    [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor]

  49. And yes I do believe koolo treats his students in the same manner he behaves on here.

    And if I believe you treat your wife and assorted relatives as you do others in here? Should I contact the police? File a civil lawsuit for protection from abuse?

  50. Koolo now claims:

    Oh, and the Washington Post defended Romney’s Jeep ad.

    Citation please!

    Romney has two huge TV screens with the Red Cross’s number on them requesting donations. FACT.

    This is not germane. I’m talking about Romney’s people going out and buying $5k worth of stuff and display as if they were donated by visitors. The optics were false, in my interpretation.

    The head of a charity saying Ryan’s appearance “wasn’t authorized” in no way negates the LIE that Ryan was washing “dirty” dishes.

    That’s true, but it is one more example of Ryan’s brazen and callous manner.

    Of course I was. I always and freely admit when ‘ve crossed the line against the Editor’s wishes. That’s the difference between you and me: I admit it and apologize. You deny it despite everyone seeing it, never apologize, and worse, you constantly demean the man who gave you your own blog and bandwidth.

    Who’s the more mature (and better) man, Perry? It ain’t even close. Not by a long shot.

    Have you apologized this time, koolo? When specifically requested at the start, you did not have the self-discipline to follow through on the request. You didn’t give a damn. This is precisely my point, about possibly also not giving a damn about your behavior in your classroom, especially toward those students who aggravate you, like I aggravate you. You are a loose cannon, koolo.

    Regarding our Editor, I do have a high opinion of him as a person, as I have met him several times, and as I have used him as a model of behavior for such as you and several others, to no avail. It is our Editor’s political ideology which I attack, and he mine. That’s OK! It is what we are here for on this blog, but not for people who behave like you do with your consistent personal attacks.

  51. nd if I believe you treat your wife and assorted relatives as you do others in here? Should I contact the police? File a civil lawsuit for protection from abuse?

    There you go again, koolo. You are wrong about me. Am I wrong about your behavior in your classroom?

  52. Y’know what would be funny? Being in a courtrom where Perry attempts to lay out his case why I should lose my job for debating politics in an Internet forum on my own time. Then I could collect attorneys fees from him and then counter-sue for all he’s worth … so that his heirs and all other relatives are financially doomed — all because of his irrational and delicate ego.

    It is not for debating politics, koolo, it is for incessant personal attacks, behavior which is totally inappropriate for this blog or for in a classroom. What good does it do that you push the limits, then apologize when called out on it? That is no way to behave on a blog or in a classroom. You should be your own worst critic. Now go and prove yourself capable of this, on here and in your classroom.

  53. Citation please!

    I already did!!!

    The optics were false, in my interpretation.

    Of COURSE they were! But that’s not what you posted yesterday.

    That’s true, but it is one more example of Ryan’s brazen and callous manner.

    But that’s NOT what you posted yesterday. Goal posts are being moved yet AGAIN.

    Have you apologized this time, koolo? When specifically requested at the start, you did not have the self-discipline to follow through on the request. You didn’t give a damn.

    What’s to apologize FOR? You still haven’t shown (after 3 requests) just what I did. Have YOU apologized for what you were banned? Nope. Never.

    This is precisely my point, about possibly also not giving a damn about your behavior in your classroom, especially toward those students who aggravate you, like I aggravate you. You are a loose cannon, koolo.

    Again, for someone who’s supposed to be intelligent, you just cannot, somehow, fathom how an adult can divorce his professional from personal life. That says a helluva lot more about you than me.

    There you go again, koolo. You are wrong about me. Am I wrong about your behavior in your classroom?

    Oh gosh — are you offended by my statement? I’m wrong? Try looking inward, then. In case you can’t figure it out, you aren’t even in the ballpark about my professional behavior. You only make these threats because you know you your personal foundation is pathetically weak, and you need someone to take it out on. As Hoagie (and I) have said repeatedly, “Grow up.” Enough is enough.

  54. It is not for debating politics, koolo, it is for incessant personal attacks, behavior which is totally inappropriate for this blog or for in a classroom. What good does it do that you push the limits, then apologize when called out on it? That is no way to behave on a blog or in a classroom. You should be your own worst critic. Now go and prove yourself capable of this, on here and in your classroom.

    This is yet another Perry LIE. This is YOUR [mis]interpretation of what happens here, based on a hypocritical and self-absorbed mindset.

    You should be YOUR own worst critic, Perry. In here and with your family. Have you apologized to your family for your childish behavior yet, Perry? They certainly deserve it. Man up and do it now.

  55. I’ll apologize to the Editor in this thread now … for hijacking the thread. But I hope he understands b/c Perry has made yet another threat to a commenter b/c he can’t stand it when his own tactics are turned against him.

  56. In case you can’t figure it out, you aren’t even in the ballpark about my professional behavior.

    I’ll believe that when I see some professional behavior on here from you!

    I’ll apologize to the Editor in this thread now … for hijacking the thread. But I hope he understands b/c Perry has made yet another threat to a commenter b/c he can’t stand it when his own tactics are turned against him.

    Absolutely I have said that I would turn you in, based on your behavior on here vis a vis a classroom. If you have nothing to fear, then you would not be pushing back on this issue, to the extent that you would even refer to it as a “threat”. You know full well, or should know, that your behavior on here would raise questions by administrators and board members, the same questions I am raising. So clean up your act, koolo, as a demonstration of your “professional” persona!

    [Comment left intact; in this, Wagonwheel has admitted that he has threatened koolo's livelihood.

    It should be obvious that, if koolo is a teacher, simply a complaint made of this nature would cause serious repercussions, whether the complaint was dismissed or not. Because Wagonwheel is, himself, retired, he is immune to such threats.

    We have endured many, many personal insults on this site, but only one commenter here has threatened someone else's liberty or livelihood, and that commenter, himself, has made complaints when others have published his real name, even though that commenter has no job to lose. His request for personal anonymity has been honored on this site, simply because he has requested such.

    I fully recognize that there are some significant personal animosities here, and that as discussion gets more strident, those animosities accelerate. However, threatening someone's livelihood or liberty crosses the line, very blatantly. -- Editor]

  57. Perry the bully responds again:

    To think that we have this monster as a classroom teacher in my state is very disturbing indeed!!! If I could, I would definitely turn him in. I’m sorry, but the mental health of koolo’s students are a higher priority to me than his livelihood. Let that be a warning, koolo: You better guard your anonymity very closely, otherwise you will be turned in by me.

    This is typical of left wingers. They want the power to destroy other people’s lives, to force them to bend to their will. Perry wants to force someone to shut up because that person always beats them in arguments. That is why left wingers are a threat to America. They are a threat to our freedom. They want to be dictators, bossing other people around. Thus Perry shows he has no moral standards at all, and is basically a thug at heart. In punishment for his evil behavior, he should be banned for at least another 15 days. That should teach him a lesson about being a left wing bully!

  58. If you have nothing to fear, then you would not be pushing back on this issue, to the extent that you would even refer to it as a “threat”.

    Oh yes, and then we have this oft-repeated line. As if anyone wouldn’t be threatened by such from an obviously very self-absorbed, sanctimonious and unstable individual. This is merely example #4655 of Perry NEVER accepting responsibility for ANYTHING he does/says. It’s always the OTHER person’s fault/responsibility.

    I wonder: Since you have the knack for invoking my classes, I guess I should use your own tactics if I was ever accused of the “bullying” you fantasize about: “What?? ME?? It’s on the kid!! If he TOOK it as bullying then obviously there’s something wrong with HIM!”

    Or, better yet, let’s just use YOU, Perry: It’s YOUR own fault for taking my posts in here as “bullying,” “personal attacks” and “stalking.” If you have nothing to fear, you’d worry nothing about my comments in response to your posts here. Right?

    Sound ridiculous? Now you’re catching on …. well, I can hope.

  59. Absolutely I have said that I would turn you in, based on your behavior on here vis a vis a classroom. If you have nothing to fear, then you would not be pushing back on this issue, to the extent that you would even refer to it as a “threat”. You know full well, or should know, that your behavior on here would raise questions by administrators and board members, the same questions I am raising. So clean up your act, koolo, as a demonstration of your “professional” persona!

    You are being a bully again. Koolo’s job is none of your business. That is solely up to his superiors, who are obviously satisfied with his job. Being a bully and threatening his job just because he beats you in arguments is a sign of your left wing evil. Like all left wingers, you want the power to control people. You want the power to shut people up. That is why we are morally superior to you. All we want is for people to have freedom. That’s why we want the American ideals of limited government and low taxes.

    You need to do some soul searching, Perry. You need to find out why you are such a bully, and why you cling to your godless, un-American left wing ideology. You will be facing God soon. How will you explain your evil, bullying ways to Him? I don’t think I’d care to be you on Judgment Day, full of arrogance, lies, and hatred for decent people like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

  60. Eric: Perry’s threats are basically no different than the swatting of other conservative bloggers (like Patterico). And it happens ONLY b/c of the ultra-thin skinness of radical bloggers who cannot stand anyone rebutting them.

  61. Or, better yet, let’s just use YOU, Perry: It’s YOUR own fault for taking my posts in here as “bullying,” “personal attacks” and “stalking.” If you have nothing to fear, you’d worry nothing about my comments in response to your posts here. Right?

    Your only “Sin” in here is that you keep beating Perry in arguments. That is why he hates your guts and wants to destroy your life. He is a mean spirited, angry, petty, spiteful, thuggish little man. And he claims to care about “The children”! He doesn’t care one bit about the children, that is just his sanctimonious justification for trying to destroy your life. Still, the satisfaction will come when he meets God on Judgment Day, when he will be punished for his arrogance, anger, and hatred. Where will his godless, evil left wing ideology be then?

  62. Inasmuch as this thread has degenerated into nothing but personal attacks, from all sides, I am closing comments on this thread. No one has been suspended or banned, but further personal threats will lead to such.

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