I can’t believe that Obama had the balls to say this!

From William Teach:

Obama To Sandy Victims: “We Leave Nobody Behind”

October 31, 2012 – 8:44 am

Obama was out trying to “look” presidential yesterday in the wake of Sandy, and I caught this

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Obama to Sandy victims “America is with you”. Yeah, we were with Benghazi victims, too. But, you weren’t, champ!

30 Oct 12

The whole “hey, look, I’m acting presidential” speech was even worse, and he said:

(BreitbartThis is a tough time for a lot of people; millions of folks all across the Eastern Seaboard, but America’s tougher. And we’re tougher because we pull together, we leave nobody behind, we make sure we respond as a nation and remind ourselves that whenever an American is in need, all of us stand together to make sure we’re providing the help that’s necessary.

As John Nolte writes

That’s a beautiful sentiment, Mr. President, but where was it when the cameras weren’t rolling; when your government heard three plaintive pleas for assistance from Americans under attack and with help reportedly close enough to make a difference?

John points out that it is an interesting study in reactions, one where Obama is appearing as engaged and has suspended his campaign, the other where he tuned out and hit the campaign trail to head to Vegas. It begs the question “why did the Obama administration act in that fashion post-Benghazi?” Obama could have come out smelling like a rose had he sent in forces to rescue our people in Benghazi and come out strong against this terrorist attack. Instead, people are now wonder exactly what was going on that caused the administration to leave Americans to die.

The White House Flickr stream has a bunch of photos of Obama “looking concerned” over Sandy (such as this one), but nothing from September 11 when our people were under assault.

Nice Deb is not impressed by Obama’s words, nor is the PJ Tattler and The Gateway Pundit. I’m sure there will be plenty of photos of Obama “looking presidential” coming soon to be even more not impressed by.

Crossed at Right Wing News and Stop The ACLU.

“We leave nobody behind,” huh? Perhaps Ambassador Christopher Smith might see that differently, but he can’t say anything anymore, can he? Tyrone Woods? Nope, he’s pretty silent about the whole thing, too, although Mr Woods father has had plenty to say!

The fact is that we did leave somebody behind,didn’t we?

I guess that it was easier for President Obama when it came to Hurricane Sandy. We had plenty of warning, we wouldn’t step on any poor Muslim toes, and all that he had to do was authorize spending money. That isn’t so hard, is it?

But to have to take a decision as commander-in-chief? Hell, that’s a tough one, isn’t it? Hilary Clinton knew, four years ago, that Barack Hussein Obama wasn’t the one to be responsible for answering the fabled 3:00 AM phone call. Your Editor knew it, too, and that’s why he voted for John McCain. And on September 11, 2012, President Obama proved he wasn’t capable of answering the 3:00 AM phone call.

Of course, the call didn’t come at 3:00 AM; the call came in the middle of the day. The Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, was right there, as was General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. All of the advisors the President could have needed were available . . . and President Obama did nothing.

In 1983, there were 800 American students studying medicine at St George’s University on the island of Grenada. A bloody military coup d’etat ousted the government and murdered Prime Minister Maurice Bishop. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger had increased American forces in the region, to be ready for action, but when it came to the rescue of the medical students, who were thought to be in some danger, Mr Weinberger said no. President Ronald Reagan said yes, we are going to do this, we are going to save our people. There was a President who was up to the job.

Barack Hussein Obama is not.

The invasion of Grenada was against international law; with our people threatened, President Reagan didn’t care about international law. The United Nations General Assembly condemned the action; President Reagan didn’t care what they said. As the Benghazi situation was developing, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton actually contacted the Libyan government to ask for permission for our forces to fly in Libyan airspace, in case we were to mount a rescue mission; President Reagan would have scoffed at such a ridiculous idea.

And now President Obama has the balls to say “We leave nobody behind.” He has lied through his scummy teeth!

58 Comments

  1. Romney is having a real tough time right now, so his desperate supporters, like our Editor here, are doing their best to divert attention to an issue which they have attempted, unsuccessfully except to their own tribe, attempted unsuccessfully to politicize this event before any significant information had become known. The whole story still is not out, but no matter, Republicans will proceed to make stuff up, hoping to make our President look bad just before the election.

    This is a diversion, a diversion from Romney’s well known weakness on foreign policy (See debate #3), and a diversion from the effective leadership and cooperation the President is exhibiting in the wake of this terrible Sandra storm.

    For Republicans, this storm could not have occurred at a worst time when we are on the verge of a very significant election, and at a time when Romney/Ryan are blundering:

    * President Obama and Governor Christie are working together on recovery from the storm, providing optics favorable to both leaders;

    * This after Romney had called for FEMA to be downloaded from the feds to a state or “even better”, private contractors;

    * Romney has been caught in an outright lie saying that Jeep moved jobs to China, to the point where two CEO’s have slammed him for it;

    * Romney has faked a collection for storm victims in OH;

    * Ryan has faked washing pots that were already clean, to the consternation of the charity CEO of the charity soup kitchen.

    The Romney/Ryan optics are terrible right now, and the politics are ill-conceived and ill-timed.

    The only chance I see for the Romney/Ryan ticket is either the impact on Dem voters of voter suppression, and/or voting machine fraud, especially in the great state of Ohio. I am sure that on both of these effort renewed efforts will be pushed by right-wing partisans!

    In the meantime, and for a long time to come, we need a sustained federal/state/local effort to accelerate recovery from this awful tragedy due to Sandy.

    In the meantime also, we can exert a bit more patience on the Benghazi issue until all the information is in. When I see reporting from a credible source, then I will react, criticizing the WH, the State Department, the CIA, and the FBI, whoever behaved in a manner not befitting the reaction needed and possible under the circumstances. I certainly don’t pay heed to trigger-happy neocons and their politically biased supporters; neither should you folks!

  2. WW wrote:

    The whole story still is not out, but no matter, Republicans will proceed to make stuff up, hoping to make our President look bad just before the election.

    Translation: if President Obama can just keep things under wraps for six more days . . . .

    Our President already looks bad, just before the election, and has looked bad for 3¾ years now. His economics are a failure and a joke, and his “leadership” as commander-in-chief downright dangerous. If he is re-elected, it will be the job of the Republicans to block every last thing he tries to do.

  3. Our President already looks bad, just before the election, and has looked bad for 3¾ years now. His economics are a failure and a joke, and his “leadership” as commander-in-chief downright dangerous. If he is re-elected, it will be the job of the Republicans to block every last thing he tries to do.

    The joke will be on us, if we are stupid enough to put back in power the very party which caused our financial tsunami to begin with, then blocked significant efforts for recovery as a first priority to defeat President Obama!

    Fortunately for our nation, this god-awful Republican Party has made themselves their own worst enemy, as demonstrated here, thus making it more likely that their treasonous strategy will fail, an unintended gift to the American people!

  4. Notice there are NO citations for these, mainly b/c they’re either outright LIES (Perry’s m.o.) or gratuitous meaninglessness:

    * President Obama and Governor Christie are working together on recovery from the storm, providing optics favorable to both leaders;

    This is all Dictator Obama has left — “optics.”

    * This after Romney had called for FEMA to be downloaded from the feds to a state or “even better”, private contractors;

    Uh huh. And Dictator Obama’s own sequester proposal cuts FEMA by $900 million.

    * Romney has been caught in an outright lie saying that Jeep moved jobs to China, to the point where two CEO’s have slammed him for it;

    The Washington Post, of all places, called Romney’s ad “factually defensible” and “technically correct.”

    * Romney has faked a collection for storm victims in OH;

    An outright lie. Worse than any other on this list. Stay away from the Democratic Underground for once.

    * Ryan has faked washing pots that were already clean, to the consternation of the charity CEO of the charity soup kitchen

    Again, stay away from the radical blogs. This lie was debunked long ago.

  5. WW wrote:

    The joke will be on us, if we are stupid enough to put back in power the very party which caused our financial tsunami to begin with, then blocked significant efforts for recovery as a first priority to defeat President Obama!

    Would that we had blocked President Obama’s “efforts for recovery.” The economy might be in better shape than it is now, but even if it wasn’t, we’d be facing a trillion dollars less debt than we are now. President Obama’s efforts have not improved things one bit, but they have added a whole lot more to our national debt, insuring that our future growth will be stunted as we have to send trillions of dollars overseas, out of our economy, slowing down growth, to pay back the stupidity that the republicans weren’t able to stop.

  6. Let there be NO doubt: Perry is a habitual liar and relies exclusively on far-left blogs for his [erroneous] information. He once claimed he got his news “from numerous sources;” these “numerous sources” must’ve meant the Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Delaware Liberal, and Atrios. Among other moonbat sites.

  7. Would that we had blocked President Obama’s “efforts for recovery.” The economy might be in better shape than it is now, but even if it wasn’t, we’d be facing a trillion dollars less debt than we are now. President Obama’s efforts have not improved things one bit, but they have added a whole lot more to our national debt, insuring that our future growth will be stunted as we have to send trillions of dollars overseas, out of our economy, slowing down growth, to pay back the stupidity that the republicans weren’t able to stop.

    On the contrary, both Bush’s TARP in late 2008, and Obama’s ARRA in early 2009, were rescue packages which staved off economic catastrophe in America, and globally as well. That’s the record! No one but right wing extremists dare challenge said record without being labelled dysfunctional/delusional, which in fact Republicans have done, thereby earning said label, thereby not deserving to be elected to power by the American people.

    Nevermind that they, the Republicans, have proven themselves to be incompetent and outright liars. Such has been the lesson of their failed campaign.

    It all comes down to being that simple, that obvious a choice, culminating next Tuesday. We must reelect President Obama!

  8. Nevermind that they, the Republicans, have proven themselves to be incompetent and outright liars. Such has been the lesson of their failed campaign.

    Says the individual who just bullet pointed all those LIES above. LOL!!!

  9. Koolo posts 4 links:

    #1:

    Dictator Obama’s sequester proposal.

    The sequester proposal, passed by Congress, was a follow-on to Simpson-Bowles, intended to force Congress themselves to deal with our on-going fiscal crisis by threatening across the board spending cuts which would be catastrophic. Thus, your intention, koolo, to make it appear as if President Obama wished to undermine FEMA, is a myth.

    #2:

    Romney’s “fake” storm collection on behalf of victims.

    The fact that the night before the event Romney campaign people went out and purchased $5k worth of relief items, then gave to people to line up and turn in as gifts, creates an optic which is deceptive. No one can fault the idea of participating in and supporting a Red Cross fund drive, but please, let them be 100% genuine.

    #3:

    WaPo on Romney’s Jeep “lie.”

    First of all, Romney has reworded his initial charge, which was patently false, to one which implies that jobs will be moved by Chrysler from the US to China. The implication is false, as two auto CEO’s have indicated. In fact, expansion of American production of Jeeps is expected to add 1100 more jobs. Romney/Ryan lied again!

    #4:

    Paul Ryan washing “clean” dishes.

    Maybe they were dirty “dishes”, actually pans, but this was an obvious set-up for optics purposes, and was handled in a dictatorial manner. Look at what the charity CEO said:

    Amid questions and criticisms related to Paul Ryan’s visit this weekend to an Ohio soup kitchen, the charity’s president said the Republican vice presidential candidate did, in fact, scrub dirty dishes though his visit wasn’t officially sanctioned.

    Looks like all four of your rebuttals failed, koolo. Sorry!

  10. Looks like all four of your rebuttals failed, koolo. Sorry!

    Denying reality yet again, I see, Perry. At least I backed up my claims; you didn’t b/c you knew the lies were all from wacko radical sites — the only place you get your news.

    You’ve been schooled so much you must feel like you’re a student again back in the classroom.

  11. Perry quoted the CEO of the charity saying Paul Ryan did, in fact, wash dirty dishes and not clean dishes to prove that Koolo lied about Paul Ryan washing dirty dishes and not clean dishes. Does Perry even know that his own cite proves Koolo right?

    Oh, and since when does charity work need “sanctioned” in order for it to be charity work? That’s a “big government” approach. A game of “Mother, may I” or “Simon Says”, which the Left adamantly demand everyone play, with the Left in charge, of course.

  12. And the big boss man for Fiat (the Italian car company Obama illegally violated Federal bankruptcy law to hand Chrysler over to) said he intends to move Jeep manufacturing out of the US and into Italy to prop up Fiat’s flagging European operation.

    Yes, a formerly American auto company is hoped to rescue a failed Italian auto company by moving American jobs to Italy.

  13. And the big boss man for Fiat (the Italian car company Obama illegally violated Federal bankruptcy law to hand Chrysler over to) said he intends to move Jeep manufacturing out of the US and into Italy to prop up Fiat’s flagging European operation.

    Yes, a formerly American auto company is hoped to rescue a failed Italian auto company by moving American jobs to Italy.

    First of all: Citation please!

    Secondly, expanding production here, to add 1100 jobs here, does not correspond moving jobs to Italy, although I understand that is what you wish to believe/make-up, for right-wing political purposes. It’s not working, John, and voters know it!

  14. First of all: Citation please!

    LOL! Why should he? You provided absolutely NONE in your bullet point list of LIES.

    Perry quoted the CEO of the charity saying Paul Ryan did, in fact, wash dirty dishes and not clean dishes to prove that Koolo lied about Paul Ryan washing dirty dishes and not clean dishes. Does Perry even know that his own cite proves Koolo right?

    It becomes more evident every day that Perry must be sinking deeper into the realm of delusional dementia …

  15. In the meantime also, we can exert a bit more patience on the Benghazi issue until all the information is in.

    Translation: You want NO information to come in until after Election Day. You want to cover the president’s incompetence/traitorous actions with the fog of mush, so no one will know the truth about his incompetence/traitorous actions. We all know the truth. He knew it was a terrorist attack in real time, and he did nothing. He failed, just as he has failed with the economy. No way should we re-elect this loser!

  16. Perry goes on another angry, hate filled rant:

    Fortunately for our nation, this god-awful Republican Party has made themselves their own worst enemy, as demonstrated here, thus making it more likely that their treasonous strategy will fail, an unintended gift to the American people!

    The only traitors here are the left wingers, trying to push their evil, alien ideology on this country. Tell us Perry – why are you a left winger? Why have you embraced this hate filled ideology? It is un-American and wants to destroy this country’s ideals by pushing big government and high taxes.

    This is Total War, Perry. You left wing scum have declared war on America, and we patriots will fight back until your evil ideology is utterly defeated.

  17. * Romney has faked a collection for storm victims in OH;

    An outright lie. Worse than any other on this list. Stay away from the Democratic Underground for once.

    Notice how Perry is such a scumbag he even attacks Mitt Romney’s generosity!

  18. Eric, have you noted that Perry’s usage of Providence’s name is, almost always, used in a vulgar swearing-like fashion? A Ten Commandments violation. Very typical of those who proclaim there is no Providence to take Providence’s name in vain. Just like the hate-filled Perry does with regularity.

  19. About all that supposed fakery:

    Why did Romney turn his campaign contribution buttons into Red Cross contribution buttons, reducing the opportunity for him to collect more campaign contributions in the fight against Socialism, hrmm?

  20. WW wrote:

    Would that we had blocked President Obama’s “efforts for recovery.” The economy might be in better shape than it is now, but even if it wasn’t, we’d be facing a trillion dollars less debt than we are now. President Obama’s efforts have not improved things one bit, but they have added a whole lot more to our national debt, insuring that our future growth will be stunted as we have to send trillions of dollars overseas, out of our economy, slowing down growth, to pay back the stupidity that the republicans weren’t able to stop.

    On the contrary, both Bush’s TARP in late 2008, and Obama’s ARRA in early 2009, were rescue packages which staved off economic catastrophe in America, and globally as well. That’s the record!

    No, that’s what you claim the record is; no one can prove that the stimulus plan “staved off economic catastrophe,” because no one can know what would have happened had the porkulus plan not been passed. All that we actually know is that:

    • The projected results for the stimulus plan have not been met, and, in fact, were never even approached; and
    • The deficit and the national debt were both driven up hugely by that legislation.

    No one but right wing extremists dare challenge said record without being labelled dysfunctional/delusional, which in fact Republicans have done, thereby earning said label, thereby not deserving to be elected to power by the American people.

    Well, we certainly know that you would label anyone who would challenge your statements as “dysfunctional/delusional,” but it is neither dysfunctional nor delusional to point out the the two things I did above. You have assumed that the porkulus plan helped, and tried to back it with statements from the same economic geniuses who set the markers for it — a maximum of 8% unemployment, with unemployment down to about 5.6% now — and got it wrong.

    It all comes down to being that simple, that obvious a choice, culminating next Tuesday. We must reelect President Obama!

    And just what do you actually believe that would accomplish? The Republicans will still control the House of Representatives, at the very least, and might control the Senate as well. Nothing of any significance that President Obama proposes will be passed. You will have, at best, a continuation of the no-budget spending we have now, with no actual plans for doing anything about reducing the deficit and the debt, and we will have the same idiotic regulatory environment which depresses business growth. Economic growth will be tepid, but welfare growth will continue, and we’ll have the same pussified president running our foreign policy.

    Of course, you already knew all of that. Your real concern is that we not even attempt to put in place policies which require people to be more responsible for themselves, that we make no moves at all to lessen government control over our lives, and that the government keep putting in place policies designed to restrict the freedom of religion, speech and the right to keep and bear arms. You would have us fail economically, just so you see no backtracking on the social movement toward the nanny state.

    Well, it won’t work, because it can’t work. We will run out of Other People’s Money to do the things you would like.

  21. Koolo wrote:

    You’ve (WW) been schooled so much you must feel like you’re a student again back in the classroom.

    Unfortunately, he’d still get an F; the lessons were never learned.

  22. Our editor argues:

    No, that’s what you claim the record is; no one can prove that the stimulus plan “staved off economic catastrophe,” because no one can know what would have happened had the porkulus plan not been passed.

    I agree. But the obverse is true too: No one can prove that it did not work. But it does not take any proving that our economy was in terrible shape in March of 2009, principally a legacy of the Cheney/Bush administration policies, so that when the stimulus was passed and started to flow, job creation began to return as well as the GDP. I think honest observers would conclude that both TARP and the ARRA had a positive impact.

    You have assumed that the porkulus plan helped, and tried to back it with statements from the same economic geniuses who set the markers for it — a maximum of 8% unemployment, with unemployment down to about 5.6% now — and got it wrong.

    Also factually true. But an honest observer would say that not meeting a goal does not signify total failure of the recovery, as you imply by your usual absolutist, black and white approach to these issues and outcomes. How close was Bush’s assessment re Mission Accomplished? Yet you defend the Cheney/Bush Iraq War by repeating that we got Saddam Hussein.

    Just like the government is badly needed to help the recovery from hurricane Sandy, the same was needed for our Great Recession. In both cases, President Obama has exerted leadership in both, and on the latter, Governor Christie agrees wholeheartedly.

    Don’t you think there is some equivalence between a destructive hurricane and a destructive financial collapse, such that the government has a major role to play?

    Or should we just have let the “free market” operate for both events, and everything will work out just fine.

    I find your politics not only untenable, Mr Editor, but divorced from the realities of human needs and behaviors, yours too. And you are not alone, which is why we citizens cannot have you people regain power.

    President Obama has certainly made some mistakes along the way, as he is the first to admit, saying the other day that he makes mistakes every day. But none is even close to those made by Republicans, fighting a war of choice in Iraq, deregulating greed, and near doubling the debt in 8 years.

    This is your record. This is the reason your party should not be elected to power right now. Since 2008, your ideology has grown worse and more dangerous for the future of our nation, bringing us to the point of drastic governmental dysfunction during critical times.

    Hopefully, when President Obama is reelected, it will cause your party to look inward, reevaluate, and repair, then work together to solve these major economic problems we face. We need a functional two-party system to do exactly that. Right now we are doing without!

  23. Perry, have you ever wondered why reasonable and responsible Liberals never show up here?

    I have the solution.

    If you quit commenting here altogether, within 90 days, reasonable and responsible Liberals (what minimal few there are) will, indeed, find space here to debate. It is your reckless abandonment of Truth, Integrity, and Good Faith debate practices that is keeping the reasonable ones away. And we want the reasonable Liberal debaters, like Jeff, aphrael, Matt (who used to be a regular at TBD prior to its year-long dormancy) (and Matt, I want you back) because it is good for them, us, and US. You, Perry, on the other hand, are not good for anything.

  24. Koolo says:

    November 1, 2012 at 08:26

    Let there be NO doubt: Perry is a habitual liar and relies exclusively on far-left blogs for his [erroneous] information. He once claimed he got his news “from numerous sources;” these “numerous sources” must’ve meant the Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Delaware Liberal, and Atrios. Among other moonbat sites.

    Hey,

    While “on sabbatical” I’ve continued to look in more or less regularly – a couple of times a week recently – and I can’t help but come away with the same impression that I left with: That there’s little or no point in attempting to carry on a conversation with the kind of person you describe.

    So, conservatives and libertarians are now to be repeatedly and regularly labeled as “treasonous”, or as traitors, for not assisting Obama in his war on our heritage of liberties and on our right to the use and direction of our own life energies? We are to be indicted for refusing to cooperate with his project to transform our present (if waning) constitutional polity, into a bureaucratic and administrative law dictatorship? Traitors to what? The dictatorship of the insistently dependent?

    Likewise, in the crackpot through-the-looking-glass-world view perseveratingly advanced by the person to whom you refer, the Republican party is said to be liable to judgment for not advancing an agenda – budgets for example - which the President’s own party refused to support.

    Yet, this breathtaking irrationality is what supposedly passes as reasoning from Dana’s friend on the left?

    And recall this too, such proclamations of ethical defect come from a guy, Perry, who could not bring himself to concede that the rape of a child is an objective moral wrong committed against the integrity and personhood of the victim. Oh he’s personally agin’ it he informs us. But you see, there are these other cultures where some persons do such things; so it can, he says, hardly be construed as an objective violation of a moral imperative.

    Given that, what could an accusation of treason possibly mean when delivered out of the polluted moral mouth of such a being?

    What possible point is there in talking to such a person? The really only fitting response to such a moral maniac if that is, he had to be taken seriously, would be found on the battlefield … and a literal, not figurative one at that.

    Now, if you seek a yammering, brain dead, auto-pilot Joe Biden-like pin cushion as a foil, then it may be said that Perry serves some kind of purpose.

    But if anyone actually once imagined that they were communicating with someone from the same moral universe, a member of the same moral species, they should have been disabused of that notion (as most here undoubtedly have been) long, long, ago.

  25. John Hitchcock says:

    November 1, 2012 at 16:44

    Perry, have you ever wondered why reasonable and responsible Liberals never show up here?

    I have the solution.

    If you quit commenting here altogether, within 90 days, reasonable and responsible Liberals (what minimal few there are) will, indeed, find space here to debate. It is your reckless abandonment of Truth, Integrity, and Good Faith debate practices that is keeping the reasonable ones away. And we want the reasonable Liberal debaters, like Jeff, aphrael, Matt (who used to be a regular at TBD prior to its year-long dormancy) (and Matt, I want you back) because it is good for them, us, and US. You, Perry, on the other hand, are not good for anything.

    I should have read your post before commenting.

    I’ll be checking in before too much longer.

    Oh if you want a laugh, look at the Iowalib clowns’ site. Guess their malevolent little project to defame you didn’t generate much in the way of good “karma”. LOL

  26. I find your politics not only untenable, Mr Editor, but divorced from the realities of human needs and behaviors, yours too. And you are not alone, which is why we citizens cannot have you people regain power.

    This is a laugh, coming from someone whose left wing politics are alien to everything this country was founded on.

  27. Hopefully, when President Obama is reelected, it will cause your party to look inward, reevaluate, and repair, then work together to solve these major economic problems we face.

    Again, why should we compromise with evil?

  28. No, DNW, I believe it is folks like you who keep others from commenting on here. Do you have any factual information to back up your allegation? Of course not, as you practice the same “make up stuff” mantra which your partners in extremism on here practice. This disregard for factual information and truthful information is not the least bit attractive to anyone other than the regular, right wing extremist tribe members on here.

    If any of you had anything worth while to say, you would say it without all the personal attacks you employ for appetizers and dessert. But you don’t, with the exception of our Editor and Yorkshire, because you people are arrogant, undisciplined and possess bully mentalities, you too DNW.

    I’m sure the hope is that I will give up and go away. That’s not going to happen, as my purpose is to push back against your distortions, made up stuff, and lies, traits also possessed by the two candidates which your party has chosen, to which I have provided evidence many times over.

    So carry on. I’ll be here at least until the election, and probably thereafter for an undefined length of time. Debating your political and social extremist rhetoric has become a hobby of mine, which I have actually come to enjoy, feeling called by necessity and patriotism to exert much needed push-back.

    The bottom line with most of you is your insincerity, because if you were sincere, you would ignore my posts and go on with your extreme political rhetoric. But do you know what? You do not, because you cannot, because you are undisciplined and insincere, all of you except our Editor and Yorkshire. Make no mistake, the latter are extremists as well, but they engage without stooping to all your personal attacks.

    One more thing:

    And recall this too, such proclamations of ethical defect come from a guy, Perry, who could not bring himself to concede that the rape of a child is an objective moral wrong committed against the integrity and personhood of the victim. Oh he’s personally agin’ it he informs us. But you see, there are these other cultures where some persons do such things; so it can, he says, hardly be construed as an objective violation of a moral imperative.

    If you wish to criticize, then produce the quote in context, otherwise your criticism is weak, and likely wrong. In other words, citation please!

  29. DNW’s return reminds me of Henry Whistler of Iowa Liberal, who handed DNW’s rear end right back to him in spades.

    And speaking of HW, who has been off the air for months, he recently had this to say:

    Sadly, I’ve landed back in Iowa yet this is precisely what has steered me away from the site. I kind of liked the sudden mysterious cut-off, but basically I’m neck deep in real-person stuff and, well, in an age where one of our best presidents is in a near draw with one of the greatest frauds to ever run for office (or pair of frauds, counting Paul Ryan), what is there to say except this: You’re either on board for giving Obama a real presidency beyond cleaning up the mess that Bush and the Republicans handed him, or you’re down with rewarding those who responded to the worst fiscal crisis in eighty years by focusing all their efforts on destroying the president.

    It’s exactly that clear. So what else is there to say? Romney is a proven, serial liar who ran as a hard right Republican until the first debate with Obama, and his unbelievable propensity to lie is only further darkened by the fact that when we got a chance to observe him speak behind closed doors, he burst with contempt for the majority of Americans. Yes, he lies because he thinks you’re stupid.

    So are you stupid? Or are you one of the scammers? If not, vote Obama. It’s exactly that clear. This is certainly as close to an existential crisis as our nation has ever faced.

    My absence has never meant to downplay the importance of this election. It’s more important than ever. But my voice is needed elsewhere, and so I will join the millions who speak very loudly on November 6th to uphold America’s fundamental decency. Heaven help the lost and corrupted souls of those who would do otherwise.

    I couldn’t agree with him more!

  30. Again, why should we compromise with evil?

    Said evil, Eric, is a reflection on you, not me. I would argue that compromising to resolution is as American as apple pie, up until the extremist ideology which you folks preach.

  31. WW wrote:

    No, that’s what you claim the record is; no one can prove that the stimulus plan “staved off economic catastrophe,” because no one can know what would have happened had the porkulus plan not been passed.

    I agree. But the obverse is true too: No one can prove that it did not work. But it does not take any proving that our economy was in terrible shape in March of 2009, principally a legacy of the Cheney/Bush administration policies, so that when the stimulus was passed and started to flow, job creation began to return as well as the GDP. I think honest observers would conclude that both TARP and the ARRA had a positive impact.

    Fortunately, President Obama and his minions were helpful enough to provide a scoreboard by which we can judge the results. The stimulus plan, if passed, would hold unemployment to a maximum of 8%, and, with the curve also helpfully provided, have us well below 6% unemployment by the summer of 2012. I cannot imagine anything fairer than judging the President’s plan by the goals he set himself. And by those goals, by those measures, the stimulus plan was an abject failure.

    There have been other rather remarkable failures by the President as well. He was going to halve the deficit by the end of his first term, remember? Well he raised the deficit for FY2009 to $1.4 trillion, tried unjustly to blame that on his predecessor, and not only are all of his deficits more than twice any deficit run by President Bush, even if you use the FY2009 deficit as the benchmark, he hasn’t halved it yet, hasn’t come close. Heck, even using the FY2009 deficit as the benchmark, he hasn’t even come half way to halving the deficit. By his own scoring system, he has failed.

    Senator Obama said that it was “irresponsible” and “unpatriotic” for the national debt to have been increased by $4 trillion in the eight years George Bush was President. That’s another hard and fast numerical point. Yet, under President Obama, the national debt has increased by over $5 trillion in less than four years. Again, by his own scoring system, he has failed.

    Indeed, he has failed by the scoring that you set up! You said, on June 12, 2008, that “national debt up from about $5 trillion to about $9 trillion in Bush’s two terms . . . is (our) record and it is pathetic!” By your own stated criterion, President Obama’s performance has been “pathetic.”

    On March 20, 2009, Tyler Nixon pointed out the folly of President Obama’s claim that he would halve the deficit, when measured against the proposals he had made. You responded:

    Fiscal conservatives are blanching at the temporary magnitude of the deficit that will be created, which could approach 90% of GDP, still short of FDR/Truman at 120% at the end of WWII.

    Do we trust folks like Bernanke, Summers, Geithner, Buffett, Volker, and Obama?

    It is much, much easier to say “No” like the critics do, than to say “Yes”

    Well, Larry Summers is gone, Timothy Geithner couldn’t do his own taxes right, and Ben Bernanke has been doing all in his power to help the economy, and hasn’t succeeded yet. The simple fact is you did trust those folks, and we didn’t, and events have proved us right, and you wrong. It seems that deficits and debt worried you a lot more when George Bush was President than it does now, or even did a bare two months into President Obama’s term.

    This thread was about President Obama and his (non)response to the attack on our people in Libya. You said, on October 23, 2008:

    Getting back to McCain-Palin, they are making a big deal of Biden’s comment about President Obama being susceptible to a testing by our enemies in his first six months.

    I believe that McCain would also be tested. We can unfortunately expect that of any new President.

    Consider John Kennedy’s testing. Some say there are parallels re experience between Kennedy and Obama, also re native intelligence. Let us recall how well Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis, saving us from a nuclear bomb attack on our soil. It is reasonable to think that Obama would do as well as Kennedy.

    Well, it took a bit longer than six months for President Obama to be tested. President Kennedy was tested, as you said, and he passed the test, rather brilliantly. President Reagan was tested, and he passed the test, with flying colors. The elder President Bush was tested, by Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, and he passed the test. The younger President Bush was tested, by the September 11th attacks, and he passed.

    President Carter, on the other hand, was tested, both by the Iranian hostage seizure and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. He failed, miserably, and the voters replaced him. Now President Obama has been tested, and he has failed, leaving our people behind, leaving them to be slaughtered, without lifting a finger to help.

    The problem is not one of intelligence; no one who has won the presidency can be called stupid. Jimmy Carter was a nuclear engineer, and a graduate of the United States Naval Academy; you don’t get into the Academy if you are stupid, or even just average, and you don’t get a degree in nuclear engineering if you are a dummy. The quality needed isn’t intelligence, but leadership. President Kennedy had it, President Roosevelt had it, President Truman had it, President Reagan and both Presidents Bush had it, and even President Clinton had it. President Carter did not, which was made perfectly clear in times of crisis, and President Obama does not.

  32. Quick, Perry! Cuss out the Editor!!!! He violated your personal being!!! He linked to a site that gives your first and last name!!!! Nevermind the fact that he linked to YOU giving out your first and last name!!!! He linked to your first and last name!!!!!! He must be cursed with the most unholy of curses you, in your natural unholy self, can curse him with!!!!!

    Snap to it, Perry!!!!! Or admit you’re the malevolent fraud you are and you only attack certain people who hit too close to home in their accurate descriptions of you.

    ROFLOL

  33. Here’s where the Editor publicly provided everyone with the first and last name of Perry H (you used pH when you admitted editing stuff on CSPT):

    http://www.delawarepolitics.net/clinton-supporters-show-independent-streak-increase-likelihood-both-candidates-will-court-them/#comment-4408

    That’s where Perry H (you used pH when you admitted editing stuff on CSPT) intentionally used his first and last name in public, on the internet, forever available for the entire world to see.

  34. Look at that!!!! A two-fer!!!! The Editor linked to two different sites that provide both your first and your last name!!!!! You better cuss him out in a hurry, Perry H!!!!!! (You used pH when you admitted to editing stuff on CSPT.) Someone might learn who you really are in person!!!!! Heavens forbid someone actually find out your real name!!!! After all, you never, ever signed your last name to anything on any public blog!!!!!

    Oh, wait…

    http://www.delawarepolitics.net/new-mccain-ad-sweat-equity/#comment-8655

    Nevermind.

  35. It’s become a hooby of mine to continually demonstrate that Perry the Idiot is slowly, inexorably, descending into dementia (probably brought on by advanced age). Just take a glance at this morning how his outright LIES were outright proven FALSE — cites included — and he delusionally comes back moving the goals posts at least 50 yds attempting to claim “nothing” was proven.

    And most recently this scumbag who labels the opposition “treasonous” once again delusionally claims his side wants “compromise” while we do not?

    And, after all, Perry never, ever signed his last name to anything on any public blog!!!!!

    Oh, wait…

  36. I have used some of these links before, and WW has not objected. That said, while the links exist, I’m not going to go out of my way to print his name here. I’m using a pen name on this site myself, but have both linked back to articles on CSPT which have my real name, and when I cross-post on TRUTH BEFORE DISHONOR, I am using my real name. The use of “Editor” is to prevent searches which might link this site with my professional identity; I do not wish to cause a conflict with my company.

  37. Editor says:
    November 1, 2012 at 20:35

    I have used some of these links before, and WW has not objected. That said, while the links exist, I’m not going to go out of my way to print his name here. I’m using a pen name on this site myself, but have both linked back to articles on CSPT which have my real name, and when I cross-post on TRUTH BEFORE DISHONOR, I am using my real name. The use of “Editor” is to prevent searches which might link this site with my professional identity; I do not wish to cause a conflict with my company.

    Note the absence of the presence of something in that blockquote. I’m not currently logged in, so I currently have no administrative “power” (which Perry H thinks is the cat’s meow, having actively lobbied to get it and having been actively dismissed, while claiming I lust for it). I can honestly say, while the Editor has not actively gone out of his way to print Perry H’s name here, the Editor has provided the city and state (as if that were ever in doubt). I, on the other hand, make it a habit of providing Perry H’s first and last name on my site, along with his city and state of residence.

    Perry H has, in the past, QQed (look it up) that I redacted a 2LT’s name from a joke that could have gotten that 2LT booted from the Army. Perry H has, in the past, QQed (look it up) that people giving money to campaigns are anonymous. Perry H has, in the past, QQed (look it up) that people who were providing help to push a ballot measure were doing so anonymously. As Perry H has said in the past, what are they afraid of? Well? What is Perry H afraid of?

    After all, it’s the Left which acts violently and destroys public and private property while their mob “protests” something. It’s the Left which accosts, physically threatens, and physically harms their opponents when they don’t get their way. It’s not the Right. So, what is Perry H afraid of that he cannot allow anyone to state his full name, like he has done countless times across the blogosphere for a multitude of years?

    Come on, Perry H!!!! Quit being a coward!!!!!

  38. One loser endorses another:

    Sadly, I’ve landed back in Iowa yet this is precisely what has steered me away from the site. I kind of liked the sudden mysterious cut-off, but basically I’m neck deep in real-person stuff and, well, in an age where one of our best presidents is in a near draw with one of the greatest frauds to ever run for office (or pair of frauds, counting Paul Ryan), what is there to say except this: You’re either on board for giving Obama a real presidency beyond cleaning up the mess that Bush and the Republicans handed him, or you’re down with rewarding those who responded to the worst fiscal crisis in eighty years by focusing all their efforts on destroying the president.

    Is this the same Henry Whistler who ran out of here with his tail between his legs from all the beatings he took here? Funny, we don’t see him around any more. Ditto Pho, who ran away also about 6 months ago.

  39. Said evil, Eric, is a reflection on you, not me. I would argue that compromising to resolution is as American as apple pie, up until the extremist ideology which you folks preach.

    Mine is not an alien, un-American left wing ideology. Again I ask – why should we compromise with evil? What do we even need you left wingers for? You’re of no use to us at all. All you have to offer is un-American ideas like big government, high taxes, dependency, and partial birth abortion.

  40. I’m sure the hope is that I will give up and go away. That’s not going to happen, as my purpose is to push back against your distortions, made up stuff, and lies, traits also possessed by the two candidates which your party has chosen, to which I have provided evidence many times over.

    The problem is you are puffed up with arrogance and besotten with pride. That’s what causes you to slander a much better man than yourself, Mitt Romney. You freely admit to having no moral standards, to being a relativist, and to being a Man of Mush, therefore you are in no position to criticize anybody. You adhere to a bizarre left wing ideology that is alien to everything this country stands for. You may be an old man but you are not wise. If you were, you would listen to your betters like Dana and Hoagie and not arrogantly feel the need to “Push back” on their superior ideas and experience. If you were wise you would humble yourself before God so that you wouldn’t have to face His wrath on Judgment Day.

  41. Well, it took a bit longer than six months for President Obama to be tested. President Kennedy was tested, as you said, and he passed the test, rather brilliantly.

    Actually, I disagree. If he hadn’t botched the Bay of Pigs operation and done nothing when the Soviets put up the Berlin Wall, the Russians probably wouldn’t have had the nerve to put those missiles in Cuba in the first place. The truth is, Krushchev treated Kennedy like a little boy, and had no respect for him at all.

  42. Said evil, Eric, is a reflection on you, not me. I would argue that compromising to resolution is as American as apple pie, up until the extremist ideology which you folks preach.

    Mine is not an alien, un-American left wing ideology. Again I ask – why should we compromise with evil? What do we even need you left wingers for? You’re of no use to us at all. All you have to offer is un-American ideas like big government, high taxes, dependency, and partial birth abortion.

    Eric, this statement is absurd. No American worthy of the name should ever think/speak like this!

  43. Eric, this statement is absurd. No American worthy of the name should ever think/speak like this!

    Then YOU are obviously not a worthy American, Perry.

  44. Eric, this statement is absurd. No American worthy of the name should ever think/speak like this!

    Then YOU are obviously not a worthy American, Perry.

    OMG! More absurdity here. Were you abused by your father, koolo?

  45. OMG! More absurdity here. Were you abused by your father, koolo?

    Oh, I see. You question someone American-ness, but heaven forbid someone do the same to you, right?

    Will you never grasp, even minutely, your brazen sanctimonious hypocrisy?

  46. Perry, will you ever stop with your insane and asinine hate-filled personal attacks? Will you ever stop dragging uninvolved family members into your personal attacks? Will you ever quit raping your wife and daughter?

  47. Mine is not an alien, un-American left wing ideology. Again I ask – why should we compromise with evil? What do we even need you left wingers for? You’re of no use to us at all. All you have to offer is un-American ideas like big government, high taxes, dependency, and partial birth abortion.

    Eric, this statement is absurd. No American worthy of the name should ever think/speak like this!

    Oh? I ask again – why are you a left winger? Why should we compromise with this un-American ideology? What do we even need you left wingers for? You are useless to us. You have nothing to offer but un-American ideas like big government, high taxes, dependency, and partial birth abortion.

  48. Oh, I see. You question someone American-ness, but heaven forbid someone do the same to you, right?

    The truth is, these left wingers are puffed up with arrogance and besotten with pride. They think they are superior to everyone else. They need to be humbled. Look at Obama, who always talks down to us with his chin pointed arrogantly up in the air. Remember how he sneered at regular Americans by saying they cling to their guns and their Bibles.

  49. Well, it looked like the Resident of 1600 PA Ave., NW, Washington, Disease 20001 got his Jersey photo op, and then left everyone behind. Maybe he should go to Staten Island tonight and ask how things are going and see if FEMA is answering in 15 minutes. He wouldn’t dare go because he doesn’t have the balls.

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