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What a boring speech. Even Biden was better. Time to switch buy viagra in canada to

the MTV Music Awards.

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  1. Editor says:

    I don’t know if it was a good speech or not; I didn’t watch it. Barack Obama is President today because he can make a great speech, and his keynote address to the 2004 Democratic National Convention helped propel him on his way.

    But a speech is still nothing but words, and if all we had to judge him by in 2008 were his words, in 2012 we can judge him based on his deeds. It’s very simple: it doesn’t matter how good a job he talks, because he can’t actually do the job.

  2. Editor says:

    $16,020,684,444,134.58

    The National Debt as of Wednesday, September 5, 2012

    8.1%

    August Unemployment rate

    These numbers matter; the President’s speech does not

  3. Editor says:

    So, unemployment dropped to 8.1%, huh? Buried in the report, we see that the civilian noninstitutional population increased by 212,000, from 243,354,000 to 243,566,000, but the labor force declined by 368,000 people, from 155,013,000 to 154,645,000; the participation rate dropped from 63.7% to 63.5%.

    And the number of people employed dropped from 142,220,000 to 142,101,000; how did we add the 96,000 jobs claimed if the number of people with jobs dropped?

  4. Hoagie says:

    “…. how did we add the 96,000 jobs claimed if the number of people with jobs dropped?”

    That’s easy Mr. editor: 6,000 people joined the military and 90,000 were hired by the federal government to man the positions in the sixteen new agencies set up to administer Soetorocare.

  5. ropelight says:

    Jennifer Rubin’s WaPo Opinion article posted before midnight last night took Obama to task.

    Obama at the DNC: That’s it?

    It would have been better had he not spoken. Seriously. Like an aging rock star, President Obama, in a downsized venue, with downsized proposal and spewing downsized rhetoric only reminded us how far he has fallen from the heady days of 2008. The man, the agenda and the aura are faint imitations of their 2008 incarnations. And most importantly, he put forth an agenda that was entirely, and obviously, lacking, one that didn’t begin to match the demands of our time.

    Even for the liberal media, it will be hard to characterize a speech this prosaic as uplifting or fresh. The crowd — you know, the people who favor abortion on demand up to birth, all paid for by the government — were thrilled at the onset, although quiet during long stretches of the speech. On TV the speech came across in large part as flat. It was frankly not as good a speech as his wife’s.

    But what did he say? Where is the argument for his re-election?

    As a preliminary matter he played the victim unconvincingly. (“I know that campaigns can seem small, and even silly. Trivial things become big distractions. Serious issues become sound bites. And the truth gets buried under an avalanche of money and advertising. If you’re sick of hearing me approve this message, believe me – so am I.”) Since it is his own campaign that is irredeemably negative and petty he really has no claim to the high ground.

    And since he previously extended the Bush tax cuts it was hard to reconcile his disdain for extending them now in an even weaker economy. (“ I don’t believe that another round of tax breaks for millionaires.” But how about for small businessmen?)

    And, she was just getting started. Obama’s in deep trouble, the flashy veneer has dried up and pealed away, his words are only a distant echo of his once souring rhetoric, and he stands naked and ashamed before the nation, his record of failure an open book.

    Obama’s apologists can try to change the subject, or continue slinging mud at Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, but the simple truth, the obvious truth, the sad truth, is inescapable: Barack Obama has failed us and he doesn’t deserve a second term.

  6. Hoagie says:

    About four years ago a skillful Hussein got a majority of Americans to bend over and grab their ankels. He then raped the republic to pay off the unions, the fat cats of his crony capitalist friends, the “chosen” corporations like GE and GM and the “green energy” so-called industry ( I say that because an industry actually has to produce something and they don’t ). The fetus of socialism resulting from that rape is about to be born if in Novemeber he gets a go-ahead to complete the destruction. Just this once, I’m for abortion. We need to get rid of this bastard socialist spawn before it eats the life out of America and we become a great big shit-hole like France or Greece.

    He’s a failed president with a minion of failed, stupid supporters and proposing more failed ideas ( or are they just the same ideas part deux ? ).

  7. Hoagie says:

    I liked John Kerry’s speach. Particularly when he said: “ask bin Laden if he’s better off now than four years ago”.

    I assume the correct answer is NO he isn’t and neither are the rest of us. What a dope. D’oh!

  8. Editor says:

    Osama bin Laden has gone from living in a concrete compound in Pakistan to a harem with 72 virgins; maybe he is better off! :)

  9. DNW says:

    Alien? These government worshiping Demos might as well be a different human species entirely.

    How did the ancestors of soft-handed mentally incoherent moral-shit like that ever manage to brave an ocean in little wooden boats, build lives in the wilderness, and create the freest and wealthiest polity on earth?

    Oh yeah, they didn’t.

    Even Peggy Noonan, practically the definition of a DC insider gets it:

    “There was the relentless emphasis on Government as Community, as the thing that gives us spirit and makes us whole. But government isn’t what you love if you’re American, America is what you love. Government is what you have, need and hire. Its most essential duties—especially when it is bankrupt—involve defending rights and safety, not imposing views and values. We already have values. Democrats and Republicans don’t see all this the same way, and that’s fine—that’s what national politics is, the working out of this dispute in one direction or another every few years. But the Democrats convened in Charlotte seemed more extreme on the point, more accepting of the idea of government as the center of national life, than ever, at least to me. “

    We have a real problem here folks, and it aint mainly with the President himself. This country has been colonized by scaffold inhabiting nihilists who have flourished in the abundance of wealth and ease that has been created by the very freedom they seek to destroy; and by doing just what the founders feared would happen if personal virtue and individual responsibility was allowed to declined in our democracy: By voting themselves the wealth of the public treasury, and the property and labor of their neighbors.

    They are a breed congenitally incapable of governing themselves, and unwilling for various reasons, some ideological, to try; but insistent in the supposed name of “brotherhood” on governing you …

    The social relationship they seek to establish for all-time is not the reciprocal foundation of our Founders classical liberalism. It is instead a mockery of an idea of Christian complementarity; minus the metaphysical context, minus an objective morality, minus any truly distributive benefit, minus ultimately, any defensible rationale.

    Yet as even Perry concedes through his never-ending ever repeated theme, they assert that your life is not your own, simply because his kind needs it, or finds appropriating it more convenient, in order to survive.

    He demands from you, what you neither need nor want from him. And even if he were able to fill the polity with nothing but his own kind, it would simply collapse in on itself in a heap of writhing demoralized dysfunction: a can of seething appetites now feeding on each other.

    Is there any point at which they would agree to back off? Is there a definite sum of money which one could throw in their goddamned faces in order to get them to agree to go off and look out for themselves forever more?

    No. My many conversations with the leftist kind have (as I have written here before) brought to the fore two critical points which when pressed they will admit: 1. that their program of totalizing domination and life chance management is an “all society propositions”. And 2, that in answer to the question, “When is enough enough, and when does it end?” Their answer is simply “Never”.

    And so, how does one compromise with that? By becoming a slave to their slavery to their own celebrated dependencies and moral disorders?

    What good does that do anyone in the long run?

    These people are freaks.

  10. Eric says:

    These people are freaks.

    They’re not freaks, what they are is power mad. Everything about left wing politics is about seizing more and more power. They do this my making people dependent on government, and the more of these there are, the more votes the left wingers get.

  11. Yorkshire says:

    The Alien is a place holder resident.

  12. Wagonwheel says:

    “These people [the Dems] are freaks.”

    I’d say it is the other way around, DNW!

    As I read it, yours is a defense of plutocracy. This is not my sense of today’s America, nor has it ever been, though we have suffered several aberrations along the way, like the Civil War, like the Bush neocons. (Btw, where is George Bush, DNW?)

    One does not have to be a mathematician in order to extrapolate the end result of your rhetoric, and that of those who would depose our duly elected President by calling him foreign. The foreigner is the one who would make such a statement to begin with, right Eric?

    The America of my vision is the one which says:

    “* Hard work will pay off;

    * Responsibility will be rewarded;

    * Everyone gets a fair shot;

    * Everyone doing their fair share:

    * Everybody’s playing by the same rules, from Wall Street to Main Street to Washington, DC.”

    To me, this is what America is all about.

    DNW (and Republicans) talk a lot about what is wrong with America, but little about what is right. Is there nothing right, DNW?

    What would DNW (and Republicans) do to make America right?

    In Tampa, they ask for your vote without offering their plan or vision to make America right, except to continue their plan to reduce taxes on the 1%, raise taxes on the 99%, and increase defense spending. They want to voucherize Medicare, cut Medicaid by 70%, and cut education, along the lines of their campaigns for decades.

    DNW (and Republicans) say they want small government, except on social issues for which they want to impost their views. Thus, this is not small government!

    Reagan quadrupled the debt, Bush-43 doubled it, and now they are criticizing Obama and the Dems for increasing it by half again more, a good part of which was due to reduced revenues from the GDP decline and job losses, which their policies made to happen. Let us not forget TARP and the ARA, both crucial expenditures to rescue our financial institutions and set us for growth.

    DNW (and the Republicans) propose that we elect the two R’s so we can go back to the Bush-43 trickle down and deregulation policies which produced the Great Recession to begin with, not to mention the contributions from the Reagan years. This right here is pretty “freaky”, right DNW (and Republicans)?

    We are better off now than we were four years ago when we were losing about 700,000 jobs per month and the GDP was tanking. We have had now 30 straight months of job recovery and a stock market which has more than doubled (NASDEQ 150%) since the March 2009 low point.

    These are the facts, DNW (and Republicans), and we are recovering from the Great Recession, but it is going to take more time, and it is going to be hard, so work hard and be patient.

    Here is Dr DNW’s (and Republicans) prescription for recovery from our bad cold: “Take two tax cuts, roll back regulations, and call back in the morning.”

    History has demonstrated that this Rx does not work. Let the Dems continue to demonstrate what does work. President Clinton pointed out this fact on Wednesday (and much more): Since the end of WWII, about 66 million jobs have been created, about 44 million under Dem Presidents, about 22 million under Repub Presidents.

    When are you, DNW (and Republicans) going to make your case, give us your vision in a convincing manner? You had a few stormy days in Tampa a week ago, and failed. Now you are left with obstructing Congress, telling lies, calling names, suppressing the vote, and spending huge volumes of anonymous money, because this in essence is all you have, which as a worse case scenario sadly might prevail, because the election is that close.

    I am doing all I can to reelect and elect the people who have the vision I favor for our country.

  13. Eric says:

    I am doing all I can to reelect and elect the people who have the vision I favor for our country.

    Your “Vision” means more people on welfare, more people on food stamps, massive deficits and debt, and more massive corporate bailouts (was GM really “Too big to fail”?), more tax burdens on small business, giving them an incentive to move offshore, in short, punish success and hard work and reward failure and sloth. Oh, and then you’ll blame it all on “The Rich”. But what the hell, Sanda Fluck will get all the free rubbers and abortions she wants.

  14. Yorkshire says:

    One word spoken by prominent Dems kills the argument and shows it wants a dependent society: JULIA

  15. DNW says:

    “The America of my vision is the one which says:

    “* Hard work will pay off;

    * Responsibility will be rewarded;

    * Everyone gets a fair shot;

    * Everyone doing their fair share:

    * Everybody’s playing by the same rules, from Wall Street to Main Street to Washington, DC.”

    To me, this is what America is all about.”

    Then you oughtn’t to be voting Democrat, because if you say,

    “* Responsibility will be rewarded …”

    it is ludicrous for you to reward and underwrite personal irresponsibility, and saddle those who are responsible with the burdens of the irresponsible. But that is precisely what you are doing by voting Democrat. And you well know it.

    You also claim to advocate

    “Everybody’s playing by the same rules, from Wall Street to Main Street to Washington, DC.”

    However, if you really believed that you would have long ago been a Gingrich fan, since for the first time in modern political history, the Republicans forced through laws that mandated the Democrat politicians in Congress live according to the same rules and regulations they were saddling everyone else with.

    Furthermore and more recently, if you really believed everyone should play by the same rules, you would not be supporting the Democrats’ programs of government directed economic favoritism and preferences which you have repeatedly attempted to justify as energy progressive or racially compensatory or whatever. You would be outraged for example, that Delphi white collar retirees did not get the same pension protection as Delphi UAW members. You would be upset that General Motors did not have to live by the same free market rules that Ford did. You would have objected to Democrat politicos scarfing up low interest housing loans while the Bush administration cried that we were on the precipice of a housing collapse, while the Demo congress refused to rein in their own creations. Subprime loans, government encouragement … remember? Same rules, and burdens of qualification, and responsibility?

    And what have we heard out of you regarding the Obama administration’s Obama Care waivers policy?

    Does everybody live by the same rules and get the same treatment by our government there?

    The fact is, the last thing you goddamned Democrat miscreants want is to see everyone play by the same rules. Because for you, even that much freedom is too much freedom. That’s not what you want.

    The predictability and knowability of that kind of law makes planning and rationally self-interested behavior and success possible. It allows “winners” and “losers” to sort out in a population of persons of differing natural capacities, interests, and ambitions. From that, follows material if not legal and political inequality, which is according to you, is the very definition of unfair.

    If your kind really valued freedom, and if the poor were as universally intelligent and virtuous as you like to insinuate, then our system of formal and legal equality would be enough equality for any man: the equality of free, self-directing, political peers.

    But in a world of petty, easily bought amoralists, like your grandfather, and dopey social dependents whose only interest or focus in life is the next bout of orifice stimulation, the truly virtuous poor are submerged in that sea brainless and irrational imbecility which you experience and cherish as “life” fulfillment.

    So, Perry, you are not only an enemy of the wealthy (or at least the conservative and productive among them); you are, on behalf of your idiot clients and cohorts, an enemy of that dignity of citizenship, of legal peerage, and of the enjoyment of those public spaces and amenities which should by right be available to all citizens, no matter how humble their economic circumstances, or otherwise directed their interests.

    But because your materialist and morally relative values are garbage, you naturally align yourself with the most irresponsible in society, whether rich or poor.

    Grandma’s problem however, is as much the crazies outside her door at night, as the obtaining of her blood pressure meds. Locked in the prison of her lonely house in a neighborhood full of threatening predators, all she has is the hospital and pills. And that, Perry, is the direct result of your value system being realized through government: your brainless materialism, your envy, your excuse making.

    The upshot is that you have only one gambit open to you if you wish to persist in your ways. Your version of “everyone living by the same rules” ends up breaking out to being no more than everyone being trapped within the same inescapable and oppressive system; subject to a universal and totalizing regime of arbitrary life management programs administered by an aggrandizing bureaucrat class.

    You wish to make everyone a slave to your dysfunctions, and call it freedom.

    My ancestors didn’t come here almost 400 years ago to be your slave. You have another thing coming chump, if you think I am any more willing or likely.

  16. DNW says:

    “And what have we heard out of you regarding the Obama administration’s Obama Care waivers policy?”

    Bold that instead of boick quote. It’s Friday. I’ve had enough of the office.

  17. DNW says:

    And typing … apparently

  18. Hoagie says:

    Hol-ly-shit Dnw, you did it again! Your post of 19:46 is on point. WW will never understand this, of course, since he’s a member of the stupid party.

    Tonight ( well, now it’s about 1:30 am ), I was at a Chamber of Commerce meeting in Center City Philadelphia. Sixty one men and women ( just so WW knows seven black people, like we give a rats ass ) , and a proposal put forth from the floor had to do with the election. Bottom line, we decided if Romney wins, we move, ( that means we GROW, INVEST, EXPAND, not leave the country ) if Soetoro wins we stay where we are and wait to see how the new tax increases and Soetorocare hurts us. Everybody’s waiting till the election and if Hussein wins, till January.

    Personally WW, I just moved about, well, a lot, off shore in anticipation of a Soetoro win. I WILL NOT LET YOU STEAL MY MONEY! We also noted at the meeting, that most of us have recieved letters from the IRS lately. Almost all of us actually. Seems the New IRS is trying very hard to hit the businessmen in the country. Personally AND in our businesses! Why is that? Out of the members present about 40 have been hit with IRS letters in the last two weeks. One guy said he figured since they hired 16,000 new IRS employees they must put them to work. Kinda makes sense, some will actually pay without hiring an accountant to fight ( or perhaps their accountant can’t ). I can, will and a will not pay a dime more!

    I’m wondering, did my “letter of compliance” come because WW made waves over my investments? I wonder….

  19. Editor says:

    Wagonwheel wrote:

    The America of my vision is the one which says:

    * Hard work will pay off;

    Yet you support policies which tax people at higher rates the more they earn. I couldn’t count the number of times I’ve had men turn down Saturday work, because, they said, “What’s the point? The government will just take it all in taxes.”

    You support policies which would tax people who start small businesses, and are successful at them, at higher marginal rates. You support policies which would impose huge burdens for health care coverage on small businesses, you support policies which impose ever-greater regulations — and thus costs — on small businesses, the things which require the small businessman to work even harder, yet see less profit.

    * Responsibility will be rewarded;

    Yet you support policies which tax money away from people who are responsible, and give it to those who are not, all out of your sense of compassion. You support policies which have created a permanent welfare class, and policies which expand the number of people receiving welfare in some form or another (i.e., the expansion of food stamps and the health care bill which creates direct subsidies to individuals to purchase health insurance), things which require that the people who have been responsible pay more in taxes to support those who have not been responsible. You have supported the President’s policies to help people who bought houses irresponsibly, bought homes that they could not afford, all at the expense of those of us who bought within our means, who behaved responsibly in the first place.

    More, you are very opposed to holding people responsible. The drop-out rate for black males is significantly higher than that for white males, yet you refuse to hold the drop-outs accountable for their own decisions, but insist that it’s the fault of other people that they have dropped out . . . and other people must pony up even more in taxes to somehow address the lack of responsibility among the drop-outs. You refuse to hold the current President of the United States accountable for the results of his policies, yet excoriated the previous President for the results of his.

    * Everyone gets a fair shot;

    Yet you support policies which classify people by race, gender and ethnicity, and give some of them real advantages over people not Affirmative Action favored; you favor policies which treat different people differently, rather than equally.

    * Everyone doing their fair share:

    Yet you favor policies which allow people to not do their fair share, by allowing them to live, seemingly forever, on welfare.

    * Everybody’s playing by the same rules, from Wall Street to Main Street to Washington, DC.”

    Yet you favor complicated rules, which impose more burdens on some businesses than on others, and have supported policies which have bailed out some companies, both large and small, but not others. You support policies which have led to politically-motivated federal grants and loans for some companies — the alternative energy companies — when companies in other fields would not get such consideration, and would face far stricter financial scrutiny if they were considered.

    You have listed five broad generalities, generalities with which everyone here would agree, but have, in every case, supported actual policies which run diametrically opposed to those platitudes.

    The platitudes you expressed could very easily have come out of the Republican platform committee, but the policies you have supported run counter to every one of them.

  20. Editor says:


    The chart above was taken from the Bureau of Labor Statistics August 2012 Employment Statistics, Table A-1. The last line in the chart is a calculation function, added by me, of the number of jobs per population. The “big number,” the unemployment percentage that catches everyone’s attention, has dropped slightly, but so has the number of people in the labor force; the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force keeps rising.

    The calculation I added shows one thing very clearly: there are fewer jobs available per person; the job market under President Obama has not improved, but has gotten worse, and was virtually identical in August of 2012, when unemployment was listed as 8.1% to August of 2011, when unemployment was listed at 9.1%.

    [Error pointed out by Hoagie corrected @ 1155. -- Editor]

  21. Wagonwheel says:

    Unfortunately for you, Mr Editor, your absolutism does not work in the real world, where there is nuance, thus, for example, the need for the Justice Branch of the Federal Government, and the State and Local Court system.

    If complex solutions were as simple as you imply, we would have a dictatorship at the top making all these orders to keep us all toeing the preestablished mark.

    You should know as well as I know that your free-for-all proposals have never worked and will never work, if we want a versatile and orderly system which always strives for improvement.

    Your definition of freedom and liberty is actually a recipe for chaos, to which your extremist Party has moved us much too close for comfort.

    The fact that your Party is dominated by whites and males should signal something which you have not internalized.

    It has gotten to the point where we are no longer able to work out solutions together, because of the ideology of your Party which prohibits such activities.

    Basically the concept of citizenship and community in a developed/mature nation has been abandoned by your extremist ideology, which, if continued, will surely bring this nation down.

    Regarding our high debt, our jobs shortage, and our challenged economy, we need to work together to address all of them. Your proposal is to let wealth and power loose to determine our destiny, as has been happening in recent years, and nothing has been solved while unearned excesses expand.

    Haven’t you been observing this disaster in the making, promoted by the behavior of your party?

  22. Hoagie says:

    “….and was virtually identical in August of 2012, when unemployment was listed as 8.1% to August of 2011, when unemployment was listed at 8.1%.

    I think you meant 9.1%.

  23. Hoagie says:

    Our Party is dominated by the belief in individualism, entrepreneurism and Liberty, Wagonwheel. The fact that “whites and males” recognize that is a testament to how poorly those of your ilk have educated the rest of America to the ideals of the Founders. Our Party is dominated by people who don’t Boo God, rather they realize there is something higher than government from which our rights flow.

    BTW, what have you got against white males? Or it that just another revelation of your blatent racism and sexism?
    Perhaps you believe white males should not have a voice? Either way I remind you it was those white males in the Republican Party that ended the Democrats love of slavery, Jim Crow, poll taxes, lynching and segregation. Now go put on your white hood and run around crying “racist”.

    I assume since you needed to talk about white male Republicans you agree with the Editor and his chart and figures. If so, you then agree Soetoro is a failure and is in need of replacement.

  24. Hoagie says:

    “It has gotten to the point where we are no longer able to work out solutions together, because of the ideology of your Party which prohibits such activities.”

    You make a statement like that, call us racists, say we have a war on women, call us unpatriotic, Machiavellian, liars and cowards. Then you have the balls to wonder why we won’t “work together” or compromise? Your party is so stupid they really believe you can call people names then wonder why they won’t work with you.

  25. I have seen the absolute disaster caused by the Democrat Party. From CRA, which caused the housing bubble (and that’s not over by a long shot), to Welfare, which causes people to never pay taxes but get lots of money from people who do and causes women to have more babies so they can get bigger checks (that’s done all the time in every major city of every state) and causes women to tell their men they won’t get married because they’ll lose the free money, to anti-Constitutional takings of our GOD-GIVEN rights, to inhuman and inhumane levels of taxation for those who actually do earn the money, and much, much more.

    Today’s Democrat leadership is nothing but a group of Socialist/Marxist/Fascist dictatorial, GOD HATING liars (see Bill Clinton, convicted of perjury and subornation of perjury while President; Debbie Wasserman Schultz, caught so blatantly and repeatedly lying that even the Leftist media had to call her out on it; Barack Obama, who never met a lie he couldn’t make bigger; Nancy Pelosi, who stretches lies even further than she stretches her own face; Fauxcahontas, who lied about having Indian blood so she could get government money for college and then so she could get a professor position restricted to people like what she lied about, and many many more whom you worship and adore mindlessly), who are bent on the destruction of our Constitutional Republic and the replacement with a banana republic.

  26. Editor says:

    WW wrote:

    Unfortunately for you, Mr Editor, your absolutism does not work in the real world, where there is nuance, thus, for example, the need for the Justice Branch of the Federal Government, and the State and Local Court system.

    If complex solutions were as simple as you imply, we would have a dictatorship at the top making all these orders to keep us all toeing the preestablished mark.

    You should know as well as I know that your free-for-all proposals have never worked and will never work, if we want a versatile and orderly system which always strives for improvement.

    So, what you are saying is that your five generalities were not true in the slightest; you say one thing, but you explain away support for policies which do the opposite through words like “nuance.” Thanks for the education; until today, I didn’t know that “nuance” actually meant “doing precisely the opposite.”

  27. ropelight says:

    Mr Editor, FYI, BLS numbers have been subject to political influence since Commissioner Keith Hall’s appointment expired in January 2012. Since then, the bureau has been under the direction of Acting Commissioner John Galvin.

    Barack Obama nominated Erica L. Groshen to a 4 year term as Hall’s replacement but her confirmation hearing in the Senate has been delayed because information came to light involving her possible ongoing relationship to old line Communist Party youth training camps.

    In any case, BLS numbers are widely suspected of being manipulated to put the best possible light on Obama’s claims for an economic recovery. Knowledgeable insiders know the situation is much worse than indicated but fear retaliation if they go public.

  28. Hoagie says:

    Politico’s Roger Simon: ‘Clinton Had a Very Important and Elevated View of the Office of the Presidency’

    See Mr. Editor, that’s liberal nuance for Clinton was standing and Monica was kneeling. Very elevated indeed.

  29. ropelight says:

    You’re on to something there, Hoagie.

    The RNC could sponsor a team of dancing girls, sort of like cheerleaders, to perform outside at Slick’s appearances and hand out cigars. They could be dressed in skimpy blue outfits with knee-pads and black berets, with a nice presidential seal of approval embroidered in gold on their chests.

    The Dancing Monicas, or the Oval Office Girls, or Slick’s Chicks, or The White House Hotties, or the Indiscreet Interns, or some other appropriate name. What do you think?

  30. Wagonwheel says:

    “You make a statement like that, call us racists, say we have a war on women, call us unpatriotic, Machiavellian, liars and cowards. Then you have the balls to wonder why we won’t “work together” or compromise? Your party is so stupid they really believe you can call people names then wonder why they won’t work with you.”

    Please don’t lecture me on using labels and names, Hoagie, because that is exactly what you and some of your cohorts on here do all the time, with ne’er a critique from any of you, except when I do it. Where are your values?

    Take this for example:

    “Today’s Democrat leadership is nothing but a group of Socialist/Marxist/Fascist dictatorial, GOD HATING liars (see Bill Clinton, convicted of perjury and subornation of perjury while President; Debbie Wasserman Schultz, caught so blatantly and repeatedly lying that even the Leftist media had to call her out on it; Barack Obama, who never met a lie he couldn’t make bigger; Nancy Pelosi, who stretches lies even further than she stretches her own face; Fauxcahontas, who lied about having Indian blood so she could get government money for college and then so she could get a professor position restricted to people like what she lied about, and many many more whom you worship and adore mindlessly), who are bent on the destruction of our Constitutional Republic and the replacement with a banana republic.”

    Citation please, John Hitchcock! Hoagie, have you ever seen so much hatred exhibited in one paragraph? And you wholeheartedly approve, correct? Well you never, ever criticize him, do you? None of you wingnuts do, not even our Editor, who consistently violates his own policies by not speaking out against this behavior by his political allies. Some values that!!!

    If you talk like a racist (The President is foreign.), act like a racist (Destroy Acorn.), take positions like a racist (Support voter suppresion.), then you are a Republican racist, clearly!

    Regarding the war on women charge, your Todd Akin-like party platform, and your attempts to restrict Plant Parenthood services, and your passing laws requiring trans-vaginal probe insertion, and your lack of support for the Lily Ledbetter Act on equal pay for equal work, well sure, you are waging a war on women. Why do you think the female demographic favors the Dems so much? How do you expect women to feel with this political onslaught against them?

    Regarding being unpatriotic, the do-nothing/obfuscating/dysfunctional Congress is the obvious example. And more recently, what about the head of your party not mentioning Afghanistan in his address to the RNC?

    Regarding being Machiavellian, the end justifying the means is your main mantra, like in voter suppression, like in Citizens’ United and the resultant anonymous Super PACs and unlimited campaign financing which has become routine, like calling our duly elected President foreign.

    You people and your Party are pathetic, aberrations from our norm, and hopefully willing to reform yourselves after the coming election, which I now believe you will lose!

  31. Wagonwheel says:

    Nasty Hoagie writes:

    “Politico’s Roger Simon: ‘Clinton Had a Very Important and Elevated View of the Office of the Presidency’

    See Mr. Editor, that’s liberal nuance for Clinton was standing and Monica was kneeling. Very elevated indeed.”

    A low point in Bill Clinton’s political/personal life, for sure, but to be impeached for it, led no less from an adulterer himself, Henry Hyde, that was too, too, much.

    That said, however, you folks have not been able to counter Bill Clinton’s speech Wednesday night, because he told the truth in order to counter the lies from the Machiavellian Republican Party.

    In my view, the three key speeches in the DNC this past week, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden have turned the election more in favor of the Dems, which is why I’ve become more optimistic about the outcome. There were lots of other fine speeches too, like former Governor of MA DeVal Patrick, and Mayor of San Antonio Julian Castro, and yes, Cum Laude graduate of Georgetown Law Sandra Fluke, as well as many other women.

    The lies and mischaracterizations by your Party have come home to roost, so your only hope now is voter suppression and your Super PACs being effective. If that happens, I seriously doubt that you will be able to govern effectively, because of your foreign ideology and the unrest your ascension to power would create.

    Therefore, I request that you reconsider and vote the Obama/Biden ticket, as I am sure that as before, they will reach out to your Party to be part of the governing process. Should the outcome be the reverse, the reaching out will not happen, as per the precedent already established by your absolutist party, and governing the country with the austere policies you have put forward will be very difficult indeed.

  32. ropelight says:

    Hitch’s statement is somewhat inaccurate in that Bill Clinton was impeached while President but escaped conviction in the Senate. However, just as everyone with the brains of a turnip knew OJ was guilty, everyone knew Slick was guilty as charged.

    Otherwise nothing in Hitch’s quote is especially hateful or racist. It’s the truth told a bit harshly and in the sort of obviously exaggerated language intended both to convey and to evoke strong feelings, but never intended to be taken literally.

    But, you know that, and you also know that asking for citations is not only disingenuous but petty and offensive as well. You do it to offend, and you’ve been doing it for years.

    You owe Hitch an apology, and you also owe Dana and Hoagie apologies. And, I don’t think you’re capable of it.

  33. Eric says:

    Your definition of freedom and liberty is actually a recipe for chaos, to which your extremist Party has moved us much too close for comfort.

    Translation: You don’t think Americans can handle freedom, and that we need a huge, tax sucking government to keep us all under control.

  34. Eric says:

    It has gotten to the point where we are no longer able to work out solutions together, because of the ideology of your Party which prohibits such activities.

    You left wingers hate our guts, and want to see us, our Party, and our principles and values destroyed. Why should we cooperate with that?

  35. Actually, ropelight, Clinton was convicted by a Court while a sitting President. He lost his license to practice Law for several years as a result, 10 years if memory serves. He was convicted of perjury and subornation of perjury by a Judge, but not by the US Senate. So my statement is not inaccurate.

  36. Eric says:

    Basically the concept of citizenship and community in a developed/mature nation has been abandoned by your extremist ideology, which, if continued, will surely bring this nation down.

    Your definition of community is Big Government and your definition of citizenship is being a slave to that government.

  37. Eric says:

    Citation please, John Hitchcock! Hoagie, have you ever seen so much hatred exhibited in one paragraph?

    Except every word in it is true. Calling the facts “Hate” won’t make the truth go away.

  38. Eric says:

    Regarding the war on women charge, your Todd Akin-like party platform, and your attempts to restrict Plant Parenthood services, and your passing laws requiring trans-vaginal probe insertion, and your lack of support for the Lily Ledbetter Act on equal pay for equal work, well sure, you are waging a war on women. Why do you think the female demographic favors the Dems so much? How do you expect women to feel with this political onslaught against them?

    Married women favor Republicans. Also, your War on Women consists of Sandra Fluck whining because her college (A Catholic university) won’t give her free rubbers, so that she can fluck every Tom, Dick, and Harry on campus.

  39. Eric says:

    You people and your Party are pathetic, aberrations from our norm, and hopefully willing to reform yourselves after the coming election, which I now believe you will lose!

    We stand for American values, the values of the Founders. Those values will never go out of style. Indeed, once blacks learn that they don’t need to be dependent on government, and that they can do better with the Party of Opportunity, watch them begin to defect in droves from the Democrats.

  40. Eric says:

    and yes, Cum Laude graduate of Georgetown Law Sandra Fluke, as well as many other women.

    I’m sure she does Cum Loud, and often, as she flucks her way from one end of campus to the other. Now she can work on every sailor in the US Navy.

  41. Eric says:

    Therefore, I request that you reconsider and vote the Obama/Biden ticket, as I am sure that as before, they will reach out to your Party to be part of the governing process.

    They have NEVER reached out to us. Queen Pelosi concocted Obamacare without any Republican input and passed it without any Republican votes. As for the rest, why don’t you ditch the left wing hate and vitriol, with their backward and tyrannical views, and join OUR side of pro-freedom, pro-American values?

  42. Eric says:

    A low point in Bill Clinton’s political/personal life, for sure, but to be impeached for it, led no less from an adulterer himself, Henry Hyde, that was too, too, much.

    What about rape? Do you want a rapist as a role model?

  43. Eric says:

    In my view, the three key speeches in the DNC this past week, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, and Joe Biden have turned the election more in favor of the Dems, which is why I’ve become more optimistic about the outcome. There were lots of other fine speeches too, like former Governor of MA DeVal Patrick, and Mayor of San Antonio Julian Castro, and yes, Cum Laude graduate of Georgetown Law Sandra Fluke, as well as many other women.

    Our speakers were better. We had Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Mia Love, Ann Romney (who was MUCH better than Moochelle), Paul Ryan, and of course Mitt Romney. You had a few Hollywood starlets, but we had a genuine legend, Clint Eastwood. We spoke of hope, freedom, and opportunity, you spoke of massive corporate bailouts, higher taxes, and more government.