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	<description>President Obama’s real problem was that he ran his mouth, and issued an empty threat. Now, actually doing the right thing in Syria looks like weakness, and the President’s word cannot be either trusted or even taken seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.journal14.com/2012/06/17/but-its-for-our-own-good/comment-page-1/#comment-36462</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WW wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;How about the two female Michigan legislators who the other day were complaining about how conservatives who approve of requiring an ultrasound be performed on every single pregnant woman, whether she wants one or not. And then these two mentioned the trans-vaginal ultrasound requirement under consideration, thus requiring the actual invasion of a woman’s body. These two legislators were finally silenced because they used the word ‘vagina’ in their testimony. Now admittedly, this is anecdotal, but it did happen, a restriction of free speech, and is a cause for concern.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your Editor does not approve of the silly tactic of adding the ultrasound requirement; it is an attempt to make a legal procedure more difficult without actually making the procedure itself illegal.  I absolutely support making abortion itself illegal, and chargeable as premeditated murder, under the philosophy I mentioned in my final sentence, &quot;The notion that your choices should not be any of the government’s business &lt;strong&gt;unless those choices violate someone else’s rights&lt;/strong&gt; seems to apply only to abortion these days.&quot;  Abortion kills a living human being, and thus violates someone&#039;s rights.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And then there are those who would forbid the provision of contraceptives to women in need, because this violates the doctrine of a particular religion. Do they not realize that contraception just might prevent an unwanted pregnancy, thus obviating a possible abortion? Rational thinking is not to be expected by people and institutions involved in sensitive issues, the outcome of which is intended to deny ones freedoms! So the dispensing of freedoms can be very arbitrarily selective, when religions doctrinaire faithful individuals attempt to enshroud everyone with their restrictions of freedoms. In other words, this goes both ways, something we rarely hear from the right!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have not stated the conservative position accurately, and you know it.  The entire debate this spring was not about prohibiting access to contraception, but whether those people and institutions which do not believe that artificial contraception is moral should be required to provide it and pay for it anyway.  There is no serious effort anywhere in this country to make contraception illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WW wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>How about the two female Michigan legislators who the other day were complaining about how conservatives who approve of requiring an ultrasound be performed on every single pregnant woman, whether she wants one or not. And then these two mentioned the trans-vaginal ultrasound requirement under consideration, thus requiring the actual invasion of a woman’s body. These two legislators were finally silenced because they used the word ‘vagina’ in their testimony. Now admittedly, this is anecdotal, but it did happen, a restriction of free speech, and is a cause for concern.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your Editor does not approve of the silly tactic of adding the ultrasound requirement; it is an attempt to make a legal procedure more difficult without actually making the procedure itself illegal.  I absolutely support making abortion itself illegal, and chargeable as premeditated murder, under the philosophy I mentioned in my final sentence, &#8220;The notion that your choices should not be any of the government’s business <strong>unless those choices violate someone else’s rights</strong> seems to apply only to abortion these days.&#8221;  Abortion kills a living human being, and thus violates someone&#8217;s rights.</p>
<blockquote><p>And then there are those who would forbid the provision of contraceptives to women in need, because this violates the doctrine of a particular religion. Do they not realize that contraception just might prevent an unwanted pregnancy, thus obviating a possible abortion? Rational thinking is not to be expected by people and institutions involved in sensitive issues, the outcome of which is intended to deny ones freedoms! So the dispensing of freedoms can be very arbitrarily selective, when religions doctrinaire faithful individuals attempt to enshroud everyone with their restrictions of freedoms. In other words, this goes both ways, something we rarely hear from the right!</p></blockquote>
<p>You have not stated the conservative position accurately, and you know it.  The entire debate this spring was not about prohibiting access to contraception, but whether those people and institutions which do not believe that artificial contraception is moral should be required to provide it and pay for it anyway.  There is no serious effort anywhere in this country to make contraception illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Wagonwheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wagonwheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Mr Jackson, it’s like they can’t help themselves. In deciding what’s for our own good, they have, in effect, put the good of the state above the freedom of the individual. They haven’t quite made it to ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer, but they are getting closer by the day.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hogwash!  If it is a deprivation of freedoms which you folks approve, then that is perfectly fine.

How about the two female Michigan legislators who the other day were complaining about how  conservatives who approve of requiring an ultrasound be performed on every single pregnant woman, whether she wants one or not.  And then these two mentioned the trans-vaginal ultrasound requirement under consideration, thus requiring the actual invasion of a woman&#039;s body.  These two legislators were finally silenced because they used the word &#039;vagina&#039; in their testimony.  Now admittedly, this is anecdotal, but it did happen, a restriction of free speech, and is a cause for concern.

And then there are those who would forbid the provision of contraceptives to women in need, because this violates the doctrine of a particular religion.  Do they not realize that contraception just might prevent an unwanted pregnancy, thus obviating a possible abortion?  Rational thinking is not to be expected by people and institutions involved in sensitive issues, the outcome of which is intended to deny ones freedoms!  So the dispensing of freedoms can be very arbitrarily selective, when religions doctrinaire faithful individuals attempt to enshroud everyone with their restrictions of freedoms.  In other words, this goes both ways, something we rarely hear from the right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Mr Jackson, it’s like they can’t help themselves. In deciding what’s for our own good, they have, in effect, put the good of the state above the freedom of the individual. They haven’t quite made it to ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer, but they are getting closer by the day.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hogwash!  If it is a deprivation of freedoms which you folks approve, then that is perfectly fine.</p>
<p>How about the two female Michigan legislators who the other day were complaining about how  conservatives who approve of requiring an ultrasound be performed on every single pregnant woman, whether she wants one or not.  And then these two mentioned the trans-vaginal ultrasound requirement under consideration, thus requiring the actual invasion of a woman&#8217;s body.  These two legislators were finally silenced because they used the word &#8216;vagina&#8217; in their testimony.  Now admittedly, this is anecdotal, but it did happen, a restriction of free speech, and is a cause for concern.</p>
<p>And then there are those who would forbid the provision of contraceptives to women in need, because this violates the doctrine of a particular religion.  Do they not realize that contraception just might prevent an unwanted pregnancy, thus obviating a possible abortion?  Rational thinking is not to be expected by people and institutions involved in sensitive issues, the outcome of which is intended to deny ones freedoms!  So the dispensing of freedoms can be very arbitrarily selective, when religions doctrinaire faithful individuals attempt to enshroud everyone with their restrictions of freedoms.  In other words, this goes both ways, something we rarely hear from the right!</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.journal14.com/2012/06/17/but-its-for-our-own-good/comment-page-1/#comment-36356</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Jackson, it&#039;s like they can&#039;t help themselves.  In deciding what&#039;s for our own good, they have, in effect, put the good of the state above the freedom of the individual.  They haven&#039;t quite made it to &lt;i&gt;ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer,&lt;/i&gt; but they are getting closer by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Jackson, it&#8217;s like they can&#8217;t help themselves.  In deciding what&#8217;s for our own good, they have, in effect, put the good of the state above the freedom of the individual.  They haven&#8217;t quite made it to <i>ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer,</i> but they are getting closer by the day.</p>
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		<title>By: LD Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the government is allowed to dictate how much we eat of certain kinds of foods, then what will stop them from enforcing that &quot;authority&quot; in other areas of our lives. This is certainly not what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they drafted the Constitution.

Your last statement really nails it. Abortion seems to be the exception to the rule, when it comes to liberals and our liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the government is allowed to dictate how much we eat of certain kinds of foods, then what will stop them from enforcing that &#8220;authority&#8221; in other areas of our lives. This is certainly not what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they drafted the Constitution.</p>
<p>Your last statement really nails it. Abortion seems to be the exception to the rule, when it comes to liberals and our liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: But it&#8217;s for our own good! &#171; Truth Before Dishonor</title>
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		<dc:creator>But it&#8217;s for our own good! &#171; Truth Before Dishonor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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