Open Thread

Wagonwheel reminded me:

By the way Mr Editor, what has happened to the Open Thread idea? I understood that you would be starting a new one every week or so.

To quote Yul Brynner in one of my all-time favoritest movies, The Ten Commandments,

So let it be written, so let it be done!

And yes, your Editor does have the movie on DVD.

66 Comments

  1. The following excerpt is from Warren Beatty writing today at The American Thinker: (bold added)

    Obama’s Epic Green Fail

    …Obama was emphatic about how recovery money was to be spent… And guess what! Eighty percent of the Department of Energy (DOE)’s green loans, loan guarantees, and grants went to Obama backers. As Gomer Pyle used to say, “Surprise, surprise, surprise.”

    …At least 10 members of Obama’s finance committee and more than a dozen of his campaign bundlers were big winners in getting your money. At the same time, several politicians who supported Obama managed to strike gold by launching alternative-energy companies and obtaining grants.” How much? …$16.4 billion of the $20.5 billion in loans granted as of September 15 [2011] went to companies either run by or primarily owned by Obama financial backers.”

    …In March 2011, for example, the GAO examined the first 18 loans that were approved and found that none were properly documented.

    …”DOE Inspector General Gregory Friedman… testified that contracts have been steered to ‘friends and family.’”

    So with all that in mind, let’s turn our attention to what has actually happened since Obama took office.

    •SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •A123 Systems, after receiving $279 million from DOE, shipped some bad batteries and is barely operating. It cut jobs.

    •Solar Trust for America, after receiving a $2.1-billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

    And that’s a partial list. Can Obama and the DOE pick ‘em, or what?

    …Creating jobs? Generating clean energy? How are these projects creating and generating in light of all the bankruptcies and reorganizations? Obama promised in 2008 that a $150-billion investment would generate 5 million jobs over 10 years…For comparison, “Big Oil” has added 75,000 jobs since Obama took office in 2009, while the wind industry has lost 10,000 jobs since 2009.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/obamas_epic_green_fail.html#ixzz1tWuOsV3K

  2. The green energy initiatives were wise and well intentioned, but unfortunately for global warming, the shale natural gas fracking process (small man-made earthquake generation and ground water contamination process) intervened, halved the price of natural gas, and therefore out-competed the alternative energy start-ups.

    How wonderful it would be, ropelight, if you would deposit an article about waste in the DoD, the amount of which dwarfs the failed alternative energy initiatives you just listed. Why don’t you do that, ropelight, or should I?

  3. “The green energy initiatives were wise and well intentioned”

    And that statement is why you’ll never be in business. It’s also why you’ll never understand the free market.

  4. BTW Wagonwheel, once again this post is about Green waste, not the DoD. Changing the subject does not make the waste go away. You wanna talk DoD, we have an Open Thread for that. Stick to the subject.

  5. “The green energy initiatives were wise and well intentioned”

    Then I assume being a wise and well intentioned man you heat and cool your home with solar power. No? Then perhaps you, like the rest of us , has determined it makes no economic sense to do so.

    Thomas Sowell once said: “There’s no compassion in economics”. If only you were as wise and well intentioned as Sowell. Guys like you confuse good intentions with good outcomes.

  6. Perry, you say Obama’s green energy initiatives were wise and well intentioned, yet the evidence shows otherwise.

    Read Beatty’s article, 80% of the loans, grants, and guarantees went to Obama’s financial backers. That’s evidence of corruption, and no claim of good intentions can conceal the fact that Obama used the taxpayer’s money to pay-off his campaign contributors.

    Which makes Obama guilty of criminal conspiracy to defraud the taxpayers and gross malfeasance in office. If we had an Attorney General who enforced the law instead of breaking it, Obama would already be under federal indictment instead running for a second term and preparing to commit the same string of crimes all over again.

  7. Or, for your consideration Wagonwheel:

    “Large wind farms might have a warming effect on the local climate, research in the United States showed on Sunday, casting a shadow over the long-term sustainability of wind power. …

    Researchers at the State University of New York at Albany analysed the satellite data of areas around large wind farms in Texas, where four of the world’s largest farms are located, over the period 2003 to 2011.

    The results, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, showed a warming trend of up to 0.72 degrees Celsius per decade in areas over the farms, compared with nearby regions without the farms.

    “We attribute this warming primarily to wind farms,” the study said. The temperature change could be due to the effects of the energy expelled by farms and the movement and turbulence generated by turbine rotors, it said.

    “These changes, if spatially large enough, may have noticeable impacts on local to regional weather and climate,” the authors said.”

    That’s not very wise and very poor intentrioned.

  8. But wait, there’s more!

    “Three months ago, CBS 5 caught Solyndra tossing millions of dollars worth of brand new glass tubes used to make solar panels. Now the bankrupt solar firm, once touted as a symbol of green technology, may be trying to abandon toxic waste. …

    It’s not just the leftover hazardous materials, but also the machinery used to apply them to the glass tubes. “Certainly those tools will need to be decontaminated, cleaned up, handled correctly as they are taken apart,” he said.

    Swardenski told CBS 5 the disposal process is going smoothly in Fremont, but what about nearby Milpitas? Solyndra leased a building on California Circle for the final assembly of its solar panels. But the cleanup at the leased building in Milpitas is in limbo, because Solyndra doesn’t want to pay.

    CBS 5 found the building locked up, with no one around. At the back, a hazardous storage area was found. There were discarded buckets half filled with liquids and barrels labeled “hazardous waste.”

    More wise and well intentioned “green” crap!

  9. I see in the news that the Occupy movement plans to shut down all bridges and tunnels in New York and San Francisco on May 1st. That will help the economy, won’t it? Wait! Isn’t May 1st the international day of communists? Wow, it’s all coming together now. So the way you help the working man is by stoping him from working?

  10. Hoagie’s comment at 12:08, perhaps we should consider following the EPA’s procedure, round up the first 5 Solyndra executives who contributed to Obama’s campaign and crucify them.

    EPA big shot Al Armendariz’s administrative methods might make it a lot easier to keep green erergy companies from looting the treasury and help put a stop to their pollution of the environment.

    Then again maybe not, Al Armendariz just now (30 minutes ago) announced his resignation.

  11. “The green energy initiatives were wise and well intentioned”

    And that statement is why you’ll never be in business. It’s also why you’ll never understand the free market.

    Hoagie, neither do you, with regard to the traditional role that government has played to encourage start-ups when the market has not yet been developed, but the product or technology is considered to have potential. The internet is an example that comes to mind. Another is the NASA program. An example of a non-traditional role of government was the rescue of the American automobile industry, about which you wingnuts continue to grouse.

    Moreover, let us not forget, you have admitted to a few business failures of your own. You win some, you lose some, but you would never know unless you ventured out there. For that, I give you credit.

    True, I have never owned a business, but nonetheless that does not mean that I have not made contributions to assist business successes. I was heavily involved in the development of new chemical processes which went on to mass produce memory chips, logic chips and integrated circuits. I also contributed to the education of about 1,500 students in Chemistry, about a fifth of whom were in my AP course, every one of whom went on to college, and many of whom I’ve been asked to write letters of recommendation to prospective employers and graduate schools. So yes, I feel some satisfaction for these accomplishments.

  12. “Heh. Obama has had more fundraisers than all of the past five presidents combined.”

    And you’re surprised, koolo?

    Shall we now talk about how much money that your side is putting into the campaigns?

    The roll of money in our elections might well be the final straw which brings us down, because it automatically grants power to elites, too many of whom, when they get power, further corrupt our system of government. This will undoubtedly lead to chaos in the streets. The OWS movement is just a mild beginning to this chaos.

    More stringent campaign finance laws are needed to save us.

  13. The roll of money in our elections might well be the final straw which brings us down, because it automatically grants power to elites, too many of whom, when they get power, further corrupt our system of government. This will undoubtedly lead to chaos in the streets. The OWS movement is just a mild beginning to this chaos.

    Glad to admit the man you call the greatest president of our generation, and a “champion” of the common man, is nothing but a stone-cold hypocrite. Just like you. No wonder you like him.

  14. “Glad to admit the man you call the greatest president of our generation, and a “champion” of the common man, is nothing but a stone-cold hypocrite. Just like you. No wonder you like him.”

    Go figure!!!

  15. Hoagie, it’s been raining off and on all day here in SW Florida, temp is 82 degrees but with only 60% humidity. Winds are out of the East at 5 to 15 knots. And, I’m stuck inside without my afternoon bike ride to the beach. Consequently, I’m looking for something to do other than kicking Perry around, it does get old.

    So, I’m making Chicken Cacciatore which I plan to serve over Italian Herbed Dirty Rice with sauteed green beans on the side along with a decidedly unpretentious Chardonnay, well chilled.

    The above is by way of introducing the subject of before diner drinks, I’m thinking a straight sour mash bourbon on the rocks just might hit the spot. Others might tend toward a crisp aperitif of some sort, but I’m not in the mood for perfumey drinks today, something bold and chewy is more to my liking.

    Anyway, I thought of your offer to buy me a snort of Knob Creek and this is to let you know I’m looking forward to it. Have a pleasant evening.

  16. And then there’s this: Pelosi ‘reinventing the truth’ about waterboarding.

    In an explosive memoir released today, former CIA counterterrorism chief Jose Rodriguez provides new evidence that Rep. Nancy Pelosi lied when she declared she had not been briefed about the use of waterboarding.

    Recall that in a Capitol Hill news conference three years ago, Pelosi (D-Calif.) vehemently denied being told about the use of waterboarding at a CIA briefing in September 2002. “We were not — I repeat — were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used,” Pelosi said. She later changed her story, telling reporters, “We were told explicitly that waterboarding was not being used.” She claimed she learned about the use of waterboarding the following year, only after other lawmakers were told by the CIA. “I wasn’t briefed, I was informed that somebody else had been briefed about it,” she said.

    Just keep this in mind when SINP or any other radical moonbat blathers on about the GOP being “obstructionist,” blah blah blah. Pelosi was briefed and had no objections … when it was politically a popular move. Then, when the tide of the Iraq invasion turned, she, like many other Democrats, began to mercilessly attack the Bush admin, and Pelosi chose to lie about ever being briefed on waterboarding, etc.

    And now — now that a Democrat is in the WH, Pelosi and her hypocrite Dems are once again perfectly fine with the Bush era policies. Indeed, they’re perfectly content with the enhancement of the policies such as targeted drone killings and the Obama approval of indefinite detention of American citizens. And Guantánamo remains open — wide open. After Obama promised it’d be closed in January of 2010. Afghanistan continues.

    This is why everyone should take SINP’s protestations about GOP policies and “obstructionism” with less than a grain of salt.

  17. WW wrote:

    Hoagie, neither do you, with regard to the traditional role that government has played to encourage start-ups when the market has not yet been developed, but the product or technology is considered to have potential.

    If there is a role for the government to play in such — a point I concede only for the sake of argument — then President Obama’s government has been particularly bad at it. Ropelight noted the American Thinker’s list of just plain bad investments the Obama Administration has made in green energy projects. It’s one thing to fail once in a while, and something entirely different to fail almost all of the time.

    The economic model you are supporting is the so-called Japanese model of the 1980s, where the government invested heavily in private enterprises; there were hundreds of articles in the American press about the Japanese economic miracle of the 1980s, telling us that was how we ought to do things.

    And then the 1990s came, and the Japanese economic model started to slow down dramatically, and Japan has been in the economic doldrums for a long time. In the long run, it didn’t work.

    William Teach has an article up concerning the British use of wind power turbines . . . and their record isn’t pretty. He also noted that wind farms might actually have a warming effect!

  18. First it was Arianna Huffington who called Obama’s attack on Romney despicable. Now, the WaPo’s Dana Milbank joins in the pecking party, excerpt from April 30,2012 follows: (bold added)

    President Obama, campaigner in chief

    The preezy of the United Steezy is making me queasy.

    I’m not troubled by President Obama’s slow jam with Jimmy Fallon, who dubbed the commander in chief “preezy” during Obama’s appearance on late-night TV. No, preezy is making me queasy because his nonstop campaigning is looking, well, sleazy — and his ad suggesting that Mitt Romney wouldn’t have killed Osama bin Laden is just the beginning of it.

    In a political culture that long ago surrendered to the permanent campaign, Obama has managed to take things to a whole new level. According to statistics compiled for a book to be published this summer, the president has already set a record for total first-term fundraisers — 191 — and that’s only through March 6. Measured in terms of events that benefit his reelection bid, Obama’s total (inflated in part by relaxed fundraising rules) exceeds the combined total of George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter.

  19. I cannot comment knowingly on the number 191, although it does sounds inflated to me, let us admit that when faced with the outcome of the Citizens’ United decision and the number of Super PAC’s on the other side, plus the wealthy supporters like the Koch brothers, any Democratic candidate for any office is going to have to raise funds in an attempt to counter all this money and advertising power.

    Of course one would not expect ropelight to address this problem, because the money and power potential is more on his side.

    The entire situation of campaign funding draws more corruption into our government. At least one would think that ropelight would have some serious concern about that. But no, winning is all that matters to ropelight and his Machiavellian thinking cohorts, like our Editor.

  20. let us admit that when faced with the outcome of the Citizens’ United decision and the number of Super PAC’s on the other side, plus the wealthy supporters like the Koch brothers, any Democratic candidate for any office is going to have to raise funds in an attempt to counter all this money and advertising power.

    Oh please. As if George Soros isn’t a counter to the progressive boogeyman known as the Kochs. Spare us, uh?

  21. George Soros is a nit compared to the wealth which being garnered around Romney and the Republican Party.

    Nevertheless, I ran across this Romney presidential recipe which, like most humor, is laced with truthisms:

    “Recipe for a Romney presidential victory:

    One part amnesia
    One part token VP pick
    One part religious cynicism
    One part birther hysteria
    One part scare mongering
    One part untoasted, stale white bread with upper crust
    A hint of doom, gloom, and destruction
    A big dose of GOP swallow-your-pride and take-your-medicine-ism
    A foundation layer of Republican “No”-it-all
    1% ego-maniacal, power hungry, self-aggrandisement with a smidge of misogyny (also known as EPSM)
    Two hundred million parts Super-PAC obfuscations (give or take a hundred million)
    And a smidge of racism to give it that ethnic flavor
    The foundation of the recipe is a bittersweet base of Anyone-But-Obama

    If the icing fails to trickle down simply reduce 99% of the other ingredients and add to the 1% EPSM ”

    h/t holycowbatman on Ezra Klein blog

  22. George Soros is a nit compared to the wealth which being garnered around Romney and the Republican Party.

    Citation please!

  23. Perry, that’s quite a recipe, especially since it runs true to form for Ezra Klein, the disgraced kingpin of the Journolist.

    You recall Klein’s Journolist, the secret society of smear merchants and propagandists masquerading as objective reporters and news commentators who were advised to avoid any reasoned response to opposition opinion?

    Just pick any Republican or Conservative and call him a racist. That was how the Journolistas were advised to deal with GOP opposition.

    And, I see from the One part untoasted, stale white bread with upper crust smear that nothing has changed. Same low-brow pack of racist assholes and fellow travelers, still in the same dirty business, and still right up your alley.

    In case anyone missed the racist smear, it’s repeated again and this time a little more directly: And a smidge of racism to give it that ethnic flavor

  24. Ww wrote:

    The entire situation of campaign funding draws more corruption into our government. At least one would think that ropelight would have some serious concern about that. But no, winning is all that matters to ropelight and his Machiavellian thinking cohorts, like our Editor.

    Well, we at least tried to create a system of matching government funding for the presidential election. But, I wonder: was there any particular candidate who, in 2008, decided that he could raise more money from private donations than the public financing system allowed, and try to buy the election? And if there was such a candidate, would it be possible that he had initially promised to stay within the public financing system, and then broke his word?

    I seem to recall something like that, but, gosh, that was so long ago, I just can’t remember who it would have been.

  25. Oh, wait, silly me! WW also said:

    let us admit that when faced with the outcome of the Citizens’ United decision and the number of Super PAC’s on the other side, plus the wealthy supporters like the Koch brothers, any Democratic candidate for any office is going to have to raise funds in an attempt to counter all this money and advertising power.

    Clearly, clearly! if there really was a candidate who, in 2008, decided to skip out of the public financing system in order to raise and spend more money than his opponent could, in an attempt to buy the election, why it must’ve been the evil ol’ Republican nominee, John McCain, right?

  26. Hoagie wrote:

    Thomas Sowell once said: “There’s no compassion in economics”. If only you were as wise and well intentioned as Sowell. Guys like you confuse good intentions with good outcomes.

    Capitalism is the one, and only,. economic system which has ever lifted more than a tiny minority of the population above the subsistence level, but capitalism is a tough system: there are winners and there are losers. Capitalism is not a zero-sum game, and that means that there can be many winners, far more winners than losers, but the brutal fact is that the only place where everyone is a winner is the Special Olympics.

  27. “Perry, that’s quite a recipe, especially since it runs true to form for Ezra Klein, the disgraced kingpin of the Journolist.”

    But ropelight, the recipe was not by Ezra Klein, it was by a commenter on he blog called “holycowbatman”, as I indicated with my tip of the hat.

    I have never heard of Journolist, so I have no comment to make about it.

    However, I have been an admirer of Ezra Klein, especially because of his investigatory prowess, his analytical use of charts and tables, and his fantastic memory, the latter which shows when he is a guest commenter on a TV News and Analysis show.

    At the least, that recipe is worth a few laughs, along with the message!

    You should be the first to admit to a “smidge” of racism in your party, like the birthers for example, who are still alive and well. I suspect there is a smidge in anyone who simply cannot credit the President with any achievements, instead that he is a total failure, because that position simply is not true. If you don’t believe me, ask our Editor.

    Anyway, back to Ezra Klein, for a critique of a piece he just wrote on candidate Romney, go here.

  28. Response to “Citation Please” request by koolo May 1, 2012 at 15:22, for koolo:

    David Koch gave $2 million to the Romney Super PAC, Restore Our Future, and Restore Our Future so far has donated $51.9 million raised, the most by far of any other Super PAC. The closest Obama PAC, Priorities USA Action, has $9.0 million raised.

    George Soros is as yet undecided about starting a Super PAC to support Obama.

    Therefore, compared to Soros specifically, or to the Koch Super PAC, Soros so far is a nit, as I claimed.

    Note: I cannot use more than one link, or the post will go into moderation, according to the way our editor has his blog set up, to the disadvantage of the commenters on his blog.

  29. George Soros is as yet undecided about starting a Super PAC to support Obama.

    Therefore, compared to Soros specifically, or to the Koch Super PAC, Soros so far is a nit, as I claimed.

    Nit? Utter bullsh**, as you’re purposely ignoring Soros’ various media/group operations all of which support Obama and progressive causes.

    SINP — lying again.

  30. “SINP — lying again.”

    Not at all, koolo! The context was the current general election campaign we are having, so the Super PACs are a major issue.

    I understand why you would rather avoid the Super PAC, because they are dominated by your side so far, which you would rather not address because of the unfairness of this outcome of the Citizens’ United ruling.

    I have the feeling that it won’t matter, because President Obama will be reelected anyway, as you Repubs continue to make utter fools of yourselves plus striving to alienate demographics which you need to win the election. The American people are not as stupid as you folks think they are!

  31. Not at all, koolo! The context was the current general election campaign we are having, so the Super PACs are a major issue.

    You said Soros is a “nit.” That is delusional thinking at its finest.

    I have the feeling that it won’t matter, because President Obama will be reelected anyway, as you Repubs continue to make utter fools of yourselves plus striving to alienate demographics which you need to win the election. The American people are not as stupid as you folks think they are!

    You also have the feeling that the 2000 and 2004 elections were “stolen,” so if that’s your track record of “feelings,” I say bring it on.

    Oh, and you do think the American people are stupid. Just look at the voter ID issue.

  32. There is a distinction between being stupid and being misinformed, which you, koolo, have failed to understand.

    You wingnuts do your best to misinform Americans by virtue of the likes of the Fox News Empire and Rush Limbaugh and his radio talk show ilk, and you fit right in to that communication corruption, koolo. Unfortunately this misinformation makes some trusting souls appear to be stupid. So the solution is to inform these people with the truth, so they are less likely to appear stupid. I suspect, however, that you are a hopeless case, koolo, as are a few more on this blog.

    And incidentally, here is some information about the Fox News Network parent company which you rely on so much for your opinions:

    “In July 2011 Murdoch faced allegations that his companies, including the News of the World, owned by News Corporation, had been regularly hacking the phones of celebrities, royalty and public citizens. He faces police and government investigations into bribery and corruption by the British government and FBI investigations in the US.”

    In fact, as an outcome of the recent hearings involving Murdoch, the British Parliament has determined that Murdoch is “not fit” to run his News Corp business! How’s that for a shocker? I think the same is true of his Fox News, the lack of professionalism has been noted frequently by Jon Stewart and has been well documented right here!, so there is no denying the many, many allegations of said unprofessionalism and even corruption.

    The Fox News Network is the propaganda wing of the Republican Party. Their falsifications and corruptions are becoming more and more apparent, just as the Etch-a-Sketch Romney campaign has continued in the same tradition. You can count on the fact that the Obama campaign will promptly be revealing the Fox News and Romney falsifications in short order whenever one occurs, having learned the good lesson from the Kerry campaign of 2004.

    And yes, I still think that Soros is a nit, compared to what is just beginning with the pro-Romney Super PACs, as per the evidence I provided in my previous comment. You have made no credible counter to that, koolo, although I know full well that you would never agree. That’s who you are, arrogant and unyielding!

  33. Perry, you say flat out that you’ve never heard of Ezra Klien’s JournoList:

    I have never heard of Journolist, so I have no comment to make about it.

    That strikes me as improbable, which is evidenced by the way I introduced the topic above @15:59 with the assumption you were well aware of the JournoList and the ethical debate which raged in the Blogosphere beginning mid-March 2009.

    You recall Klein’s Journolist, the secret society of smear merchants and propagandists masquerading as objective reporters and news commentators who were advised to avoid any reasoned response to opposition opinion?

    You were actively commenting at CSPT during that time and you share nearly all the prejudices and opinions which united the JournoListas, furthermore, you regularly employ their underhanded methods right here on this site. Today’s comment @08:27 is a prime example.

    Now, your memory may be what it once was, or you may have had a bit too much to drink yeaterday evening, or you aren’t being forthright. In any case I don’t believe you’re that far gone yet.

    Type JournoList into your search engine, read the Wikipedia entry, and see if it doesn’t jog your memory, or better still, examine a few of your comments from 3/17/09 out to a about week or so. You might find something there, before someone else does.

  34. “Nice copy and paste from the likes of D.U. In other words, it’s total garbage.”

    Absolutely not “copy and paste”; they are my words and I stand by them 100%. Shows how little you know about the topic, which has been in the news in recent days.

    What you call “total garbage” is documented fact. Too bad it reflects very badly on your Fox News, but then observant people suspected same anyway, for a long time.

  35. “You were actively commenting at CSPT during that time and you share nearly all the prejudices and opinions which united the JournoListas, furthermore, you regularly employ their underhanded methods right here on this site. Today’s comment @08:27 is a prime example.

    Now, your memory may be what it once was, or you may have had a bit too much to drink yeaterday evening, or you aren’t being forthright. In any case I don’t believe you’re that far gone yet.

    Type JournoList into your search engine, read the Wikipedia entry, and see if it doesn’t jog your memory, or better still, examine a few of your comments from 3/17/09 out to a about week or so. You might find something there, before someone else does.”

    Interesting that you and koolo are so disturbed by my 08:27 comment; but ropelight, that is my own composition straight out. That it is reminiscent of Journolist is purely coincidental.

    I simply cannot recall the name Journolist, although I have followed Ezra Klein for a few years, and generally agree with his views. Therefore, I am not surprised that you may recall comments related to Ezra Klein in the 2009 time frame.

    I wish you would spell out what it is which you find “underhanded” about my 08:27 piece, knowing that I can have a conversation with you about it, in contrast to that hopeless excuse of a man named “koolo”, for whom I have absolutely no respect whatsoever. (Sorry, but I had to get that in.)

    I look forward to your response.

  36. Mr Hitchcock is now acting like a deranged man:

    “You, yourself, admitted that you followed through on your threat to one person’s livelihod, simply because you did not like what he said.”

    I did not follow through with anything, Mr Hitchcock. You need to get your facts straight.
    [I was mistaken and I am busily erasing personal information from the public sphere and apologizing. I did not have my facts straight. -- JH]

    The so-called threat I made was merely to get Hube then koolo to give more consideration to civil discourse and away from their constant attack mode, first Hube, then koolo when he got on this blog. Again, there was never any actual attempt whatsoever to carry out the threat, as Hube and koolo could acknowledge for you, assuming that they are willing to be truthful.

    “Any and every time I respond to you, I will no longer restrict how I refer to you, Perry Hood of Delaware (and the region of Delaware is obtainable, as long as people can Google well or are willing to trudge through the hits), as you spew forth your hate-filled comments.”

    You never have, Mr Hitchcock, as you have used my full name on multiple occasions in spite of my protests. You are a vile person indeed!

    “Because you tried to destroy a man’s career simply because you hated what he had to say.”

    The same lie repeated again. Anyway, let me see you prove that allegation, Mr Hitchcock, in this very thread. You will not because you can not!

    “Perry Hood of Delaware, who got called out for his hate-filled lies back in 2009.”

    Citation please!

    What you are doing is libelous. I think you better stop.

    Mr Editor, are you going to approve of this behavior by Mr Hitchcock?

  37. Moreover, Mr Editor, are you going to put up with this from Mr Hitchcock on your blog?

    UPDATE

    Wagonwheel, also known as Perry, also known as Perry Hood, was suspended in part for threatening Koolo’s job. Wagonwheel, also known as Perry, also known as Perry Hood, who lives in Delaware and has claimed prior that he’s an advocate in various court cases, has followed through with his threat and sent correspondence to those he thought were Koolo’s bosses in the hopes of either silencing Koolo or getting him fired. As a result, Perry Hood of Delaware is no longer permitted privacy on my articles and is no longer permitted, ever, to comment on my articles. Any comments Perry Hood of Delaware, in any of his socks, posted on my articles will be changed to a first-person accounting of his hate-filled, agenda-driven activities.
    In short, should Perry Hood of the state of Delaware comment on any of my articles, it will give me an opportunity to change his comment into a comment as if he wrote it declaring what he has done.

  38. “Is that why you tried to get Koolo fired from his job, Perry Hood from Delware? Of course, we all know why you tried to get Koolo fired from his job. It is because you don’t like what he has to say, Perry Hood from Delaware.”

    Again, this is not true. Ethical people do not do this!

    Moreover, koolo can come on here and refute this falsehood, but he has not done so yet, which says volumes about his character.

    It’s all for the good of the Party, right koolo?

    You two are the pits!

  39. Perry, if you got banned from here, it says a lot about your character, none of it good. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  40. The so-called threat I made was merely to get Hube then koolo to give more consideration to civil discourse and away from their constant attack mode, first Hube, then koolo when he got on this blog. Again, there was never any actual attempt whatsoever to carry out the threat, as Hube and koolo could acknowledge for you, assuming that they are willing to be truthful.

    But, of course, being the sniveling snake that you are (you did mention a relative of Hube’s three times, twice after Hube had personally e-mailed you not to), your word is 100% worthless. And making such threats because of desired “civility” is beyond a joke because for umpteenth time you yourself engage in such on a daily basis.

    Moreover, koolo can come on here and refute this falsehood, but he has not done so yet, which says volumes about his character.

    Screw you, SINP. I am not beholden to your time schedule, and I certainly won’t go out of my way to defend your pathetic self. But in the thread in question I responded to Editor’s comment about the situation. Go take a look. It seems Hitchcock did not see the word “suppose” in your original comment, which I unintentionally omitted when I copied and pasted it in a subsequent comment. But the entirety of my comment indicates I knew what you had said in your original (including the word “suppose”), but Hitchcock perhaps missed. Nevertheless, there you were again, pontificating on alerting my superiors about something which you yourself do daily in here. You have done this before — making such threats because of an Internet forum. You are a sniveling jackal, not a real human being. God help your family for what they have to deal with.

    And how Hitchcock has been responding lately? You reap what you sow, SINP. Maybe now, and only now, will you have some regrets about your actions today and in the past.

  41. “Perry Hood of Delaware, who got called out for his hate-filled lies back in 2009.”

    Citation please!

    You know this is true, SINP. Here is what Hitchcock is referencing from DE Libertarian.

    I love the way Mr. Newton put it:

    You’d think, viewing the world through the perspective of these comments, that we have a modern Diogenes, replete with lantern, looking for someone who will rise above petty politics and offer an alternative to the trillions and trillions of dollars of spending to prop up an economic system that is horribly broken with strategies that worked (or not) seventy years ago in a world without FDIC, OPEC, WWW, NATO, EEC, and lots of other letters besides WPA, NRA, or CCC…

    You’d think that nobody has offered information from reputable economists, or proposed alternative measures.

    The funny thing is that Perry knows this isn’t true.

    Your game is well known, SINP. And, I believe, someone also noted that Mike Matthews once called you out, too. And he’s a liberal!

  42. Koolo, I appreciate your citation.

    I don’t understand what the big issue that you and Mr Hitchcock are making of this perfectly routine disagreement between folks who embrace different politics. And is it that extraordinary that you find Mike Mathews, a Liberal, calling me out?

    Only to a Republican who expects all other Republicans to march forward unified in lock step, would this post ever be viewed as anything other than routine ordinary discussions and disagreements on a blog, you know, like party discipline over and above individual values being expressed. Sorry, but I don’t buy into that point of view at all.

  43. I don’t understand what the big issue that you and Mr Hitchcock are making of this perfectly routine disagreement between folks who embrace different politics. And is it that extraordinary that you find Mike Mathews, a Liberal, calling me out?

    *Sigh* The issue isn’t political disagreement. It is your disingenuousness. Which Newton and Matthews — two non-conservatives — easily recognized. This proves that not only us “wingnuts,” as you call us, are hip to your games.

  44. No, Perry, when you claim people have no plans and no ideas, after you have had plenty of opportunity to see those plans and ideas, that is called a lie. You do regularly lie about that. And you have been pushing that particular lie since at least 2009 and most likely before.

    That is a verifiable fact, a fact for which I will not apologize for making public knowledge.

  45. Well you label it “disingenuousness”. Again, these discussions and disagreements are routine, in my view.

    Again, it isn’t about discussions and disagreements. It’s your game: Demanding citations after such has been provided, demanding “plans” after such has been offered and shown, etc. Which Newton and Matthews picked up on quite easily.

  46. And, Perry, if it’s your goal to accuse all who demand integrity in their words of walking in lock-step as opposed to you, who have little use for integrity in your own words, my answer is as follows.

    GUILTY AS CHARGED.

  47. Perry was suspended for 15 days for threatening Koolo and accusing Hoagie of felony income tax evasion. Perry has not backed down from either the threat or the accusation.

    A suspension is different from a ban, just to make that clear. And as I said Perry was suspended for 15 days and has not taken Personal Responsibility for his suspension.

  48. Eric, you obviously have not been following this saga, because if you had you would know that I did not deny being banned. How could I? Nor would I! You are fast and easy with your judgments, and wrong!

  49. Perry, I believe you’re one of the most, if not the most, intellectually dishonest individuals I’ve ever encountered in any sort of an extended experience (and that includes Phoney, although he did make the short list along with those two incorrigible degenerates from Iowa).

    I doubt you conduct yourself in face-to-face encounters like you do here and on CSPT because the responses to your malevolent villainy would have resulted in the sort of knowledge which can come only from suffering.

  50. “Just like hypocrisy, we all have games. To think otherwise is to be dishonest, in my opinion.”

    This is not good. For the sake of Dana’s blog do you think that it might be possible to eliminate the “game playing” and the personal provocations?

    Perhaps by focusing only on the editorial rather than characterizing and provoking other commenters’ remarks these “games” might be avoided.

  51. OK,

    I followed Koolo’s link over to Delaware Libertarian and the exchanges that took place there back three years ago.

    I see that the problems here are part of an engagement pattern that doesn’t look to be amenable to suggestion or change.

    My suggestions to Dana for ways of dealing with it probably would not succeed in shaping more suitable behavior while preserving participation, in the way I suggested; as the behavior in question seems to be the core of the motivation to comment, rather than an unfortunate side-effect of a commenting focus run off the rails.

    Still, it probably would not hurt for Dana to stick it out for a while and try a little heavy-handed moderation. What has he got to lose … ultimately?

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