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And that’s the lie, Mr Editor, which you bought into on day one of the Obama Administration and have promoted ever since, absolutely refusing to admit that we had a tanking economy on that first day. Well President Obama has put the economy in growth mode, in contrast to the UK which instead went on austerity, which you advocate, and is undergoing negative growth as we speak. So you and your radical do-nothing Repubs have been wrong, President Obama and the Dems have been right, in their policies.
The American people know this, and know as well that we are not out of this Great Recession yet in terms of jobs. But we are better off than the radical Repubs would have done, that is for sure. It is they who got us into this mess, why would we reelect them to power with the same policies but worse, considering the Ryan Plan.
Going into the campaign now, all you have to offer is a coreless flip-flopper, the Ryan Plan, and the Koch Brothers and those of their ilk with their tons of money and their Super PAC’s. It is the latter which I worry about, because their money and the massive skewed advertising onslaught which is coming, will have an impact on the election which none of us can yet predict. It could be horrendous.
But I know that you don’t care, because your Machiavellian instincts tell you that any way to win is perfectly OK, regardless of the damage which may be done to our people and our democratic principles.
I am convinced that if today’s brand of radical Republicanism should prevail in this election, of which you are certainly one Mr Editor, we all will lose, except for the 1%. Your Ryan Plan is proof of this outcome.
The good news is that according to the current polls President Obama will be reelected!
So yes, I agree, this election is critical, and the American people must prevail!
Then perhaps SINP can point out to us precisely it IS the lie. Show us how things have gotten better, not worse, since Obama has been president.
They do indeed, and proved it in 2010. Remember?
As I showed way back in another thread, at this point in 1980, Jimmy Carter was way ahead in the polls against Reagan … further ahead than Obama is against Romney now. How’d that turn out for ‘ya, SINP?
“Well President Obama has put the economy in growth mode, ”
What? What “growth mode”? If there is any growth it’s in spite of Obama not because of him. He couldn’t grow a lemonaide stand let alone our economy. Worst President EVER!
I guess adding trillions to our debt can be considered growth. Or perhaps 150 million Americans recieving some form of public assistance is growth. He grew food stamps up 135%, and disability up 116%. He managed to keep unemployment down to 8%, just by “not counting” 8 or 9 million people who just gave up. He’s grown the housing market ( down 7% for the 18th month), grew durable goods (down 4.9%), grew the space program into a moslem outreach plan, grew Boeing right out of SC, grew the XL pipeline out of existance, grew gas prices to $4 a gallon, yeah! I can see all the growth.
Worst President ever. Most incapable man to ever hold the office. Makes Jimmy Carter look like Jefferson. BTW, is he prosecutiong those “wrong-doers” yet? How about Fast and Furious? Have we closed GITMO? Ened “Bush’s wars”?
“Your Ryan Plan is proof of this outcome.”
Really? So a plan which has not been voted on, has not been passed and has not been implemented is “proof” of “this outcome”. What universe are you in?
And what’s with the “Machiavellian” stuff? Is that the word which took the place of “dysfunctional”? Or did you pick that up in the DNC talking points, or Debbie Whatsername-Schultz? Machiavellian indeed. You know what’s Machiavellian? Running on Hope and Change and dividing the country by race, sex and class and changing NOTHING!
Bernanke to Congress: We’re Much Closer to Total Destruction Than You Think
9 Feb 2011, by John Carney Senior Editor, CNBC.com
Official Congressional budget estimates understate the peril of rising debt, Fed chair Ben Bernanke told the Budget Committee on Capitol Hill today.
Warning that our nation’s fiscal health has deteriorated appreciably since the onset of the financial crisis and the recession, Bernanke called upon lawmakers to confront the long term fiscal challenges sooner rather than later. If lawmakers don’t confront them, they’ll find themselves confronted by them…
Bernanke explained that the Congressional Budget Office’s calculations miss an important reality. As the government’s debt and deficits rise, the economy will slow down—an effect not taken into account by the CBO. So, for instance, when the CBO says that federal spending for health-care programs will roughly double as a percentage of GDP in the next 25 years, it is probably being too optimistic. If debt keeps, rising, GDP will be much lower than the CBO estimates—which will mean that health care spending will be a much larger percentage of the overall economy.
Here’s Bernanke on the effect of rising debt:
In short, the official estimates members of Congress hear from their budget office are under-estimating our dire economic predicament. If fiscal policy is not brought under control, things will be much, much worse.
If you have been paying attention at all, you will have already known that major media outfits are using poll weightings that make the polls absolutely useless. They are weighting the polls to give an even higher Democrat advantage than there was in the 2008 General Election, when in fact, the voting public has a much lower Democrat percentage. I even highlighted one such poll, which had a D/R/I of 51 percent Democrats! And that poll only got Obama’s approval numbers to 50 percent! These major news outfits, such as CNN and Washington Post, not only take polls of “all adults” which itself skews several points to the Left of actual election day totals, but they then put their big, fat, left thumbs on the scales to skew an already Leftward-skewed poll outrageously Leftward, to fit their agenda.
And lemmings like Perry tout the results without a care in the world that those numbers were arrived at through wholly dishonest and dishonorable methods.
BTW Wagonwheel, if you want to talk “growth mode” how about this. Yesterday in my travels we decided to go to a fondu place for lunch. OOPS! Out of business. It’s in a small shopping center of 14 stores. Three are currently occupied. Yep, three out of fourteen. And out of those three one is a bank and the other a CVS. So is small business in this supposed “growth mode”?
Then we went to County Line Rd. Center to get Junes license renewed. That has 64 shops, 17 empty. If it weren’t for the liquor store, LA Fitness and the Sears Garden Center the place would look like Tombstone. Yum Yum, out of business…Ben’s Deli gone….the funiture store is no more….even the Marine reccruiter moved out.
Yeah, growth mode. I guess for friends of Obama like Soros, Buffett, GM, GE it’s a good time. But for the regular guys, not so much.
I don’t know what planet you’re on Wagonwheel but I’ve been in business since the mid 70′s. Through stagflation, inflation, recession, deflation and boom times, but I’ve never seen the small businessman beat up as badly as he is today. Hope and Change!
Whether Obama will be re-elected or not, I do not know. Had the Republicans gotten a Conservative candidate, Obama’s re-election chances would be worse than they are now. But if Obama gets re-elected, you can kiss your Constitutionally protected freedoms goodbye, and you can kiss any opportunity for real economic growth goodbye, and you can kiss some new nations goodbye, too, as they get re-gobbled by a reconstituted Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
As far as the US Senate, the Democrats can kiss majority status in that body goodbye, as the Republican majority will be more Conservative and more responsive to We the People than the current Republican minority is, and far more than the Democrats (who have been willfully violating Federal Law and the US Constitution for over 1050 days straight) who will become the minority again.
With the US House, I expect Republicans to gain a small number of seats.
In the States, there will be fewer Democrat Governors after the 2012 elections than there are now. There will be fewer Democrat-held branches of State Legislatures than there are now. And the US will be the better, the safer, the freer, the more prosperous for it.
And deep down inside, Perry knows what I’m saying is true, and that’s what’s got his spittle flying; that’s why he’s so outlandishly unhinged of late. And that’s why he’s only going to get worse as the year rolls by.
Bingo, Perry put himself in the cross-hairs, he’s naked and exposed, way out on a limb, caught doubling down on an obvious lie. He can run, but he can’t hide.
The economy sucks, it’s Obama’s fault, and Perry’s reduced to either blaming Bush or denying the obvious reality that’s right under his nose.
Which is also Obama’s problem. His reelection campaign will be reduced to awkward attempts to dodge responsibility for the abject failure of his Administration, alternating between attempts to blame George W Bush.
The American people aren’t stupid or gullible enough to reelect a miserable failure who’s too cowardly to acknowledge the pain and suffering his policies have inflicted on our people.
That reality is what’s staring Obama right between the eyes, and it’s also why Perry is making an obvious fool of himself.
I especially like the perpetual excuses from the likes of SINP regarding the administration and energy policy. I mean, what will it take for such (as Hitch says) lemmings to admit it? Obama himself, Sec. Chu among others have said they want higher oil/gas prices, and now we have an EPA idiot comparing crucifixion to what he does to Big Oil. Not to mention Democrats and their lapdog media all in unison saying “Obama has nothing to do with oil prices.”
Re-elect Obama and the price at the pump will soar. And the economy will go in the opposite direction.
Well Hoagie, then consider these accomplishments:
* The President rescued the American auto industry, in spite of Republican opposition; that’s growth!
Again, all but 12% of the $5.0 T Obama debt went to paying for a continuation of the Cheney/Bush policies of the previous administration, according to Joe Klein.
The XL pipeline is still going forward following clearing up the environmental issues, and the price of gasoline is not under the control of any American President, Dem or Repub, so both of these are false issues.
Romney has committed himself to the Ryan Plan, Hoagie. Moreover, it has been voted on and passed by the House on March 29, 2012, with 10 Repub defections.
This means that the ends justifies the means, a mantra of our Editor as well as the entire Republican Party, which I believe to be immoral and unethical. It’s like the government saying that the new highway will be built right where your house is: Like it or lump it!
* The economy grew 5.9% in the 4th quarter and 3.2% the first quarter helped by the stimulus, in contrast to the UK whose growth is negative due to being on austerity, which is what your party is calling for in the Ryan Plan; that’s certainly growth!
* Manufacturing grew by most since 2004; that’s growth!
* Stock market doubled in his 3.5 years; that’s growth!
* Created 3 times more jobs in 3.5 years than Bush did in 8; that’s growth!
* Cut back on public sector jobs while private sector jobs increased; that’s growth!
* Start-Up activity now higher than it was during the dotcom boom; that’s growth.
Moreover, if you are going to blame the President for policies you don’t like, then it is only fair to credit him for improvements in the economy which have occurred during his term. You Republicans do not do that, Hoagie. You are intent on blaming, but sparse in crediting!
So hardly is President Obama the “worst President ever”. Not only have you not demonstrated this, but his many achievements to date belie such a conclusion; in fact, the opposite, in my view.
I think the American people know better, as seen in the current polls, and as will be seen by the outcome in November in the President’s favor!
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Read Perry’s latest comment. It’s the work of man with his head up his ass.
I don’t doubt your observations, Hoagie. But you do know that we are coming out of a very deep and serious recession, don’t you?
The causes of this recession, a near depression, which is where we disagree. I claim that you and your party are not being honest and forthright with the American people about the causes. And worse than that, you want us to return to the policies and leadership which produced this mess. I simply don’t understand your position, except to think that it is based on politics and not on reality.
WW lamented:
If that’s your rationale, then we can say that most of the debt run up under President Bush was due to continuation of policies approved under his predecessors: food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC, NPR, and all sorts of things.
However, President Obama has had a chance to change — he did promise change, remember? — all of that stuff, and he chose not to. Remember how he was going to raise taxes on the top producers? Such was never even introduced into Congress until after the 2010 elections.Remember the Social Security tax cut? That was his idea. And, of course, there are the President’s plans to spend a significantly higher percentage of GDP at the federal level than was ever the case under President Bush, and, in fact, is higher than any time since the end of World War II.
Barack Hussein Obama has been President of the United States for three years, three months and one week; just when do you think that he’ll be responsible for anything?
WW needs to check his numbers:
Number of employed Americans:
There were fewer Americans with jobs at the end of last month than there were when President Obama took office; the job creation rate under President Obama is slightly less than zero!
The Editor asked
I suspect it’ll be a little while after Perry admits that he threatened people on this site, for which he got suspended. Perry still to this day insists he threatened nobody and one of the people he threatened is only acting in paranoia to claim Perry threatened him.
Perry is totally lost to the real world. But Obama is far worse, having intentionally insulated himself from the real world for his entire adult life (remember, in his unrepentant-terrorist-Bill Ayers-written “autobiography”, Obama admitted seeking out the radical student groups and professors, to be a part of them), and having been intentionally insulated from the real world for his entire formative years.
Koolo, please show me where President Obama has said he wants higher gas prices?
It should be obvious that crude oil is a limited resource, to the point where we have to go deeper to find it. For both reasons, plus increased demand as the developing economies continue to expand, plus the global warming/climate change issue, all will cause fuel prices to increase regardless, out of the control of any American President. Mitt Romney could do no better than President Obama.
One legislative measure which can be taken to reduce gasoline prices at this time is to do something about the speculators, who it is said add at least 20% to the price of crude oil.
Mr Chu seems to be using the European model for fuel prices, by higher taxes on fuel, which then are used to build alternative transportation infrastructure, thus minimizing the use of cars, thus transporting people more cheaply, as evidenced by the complex of rail networks throughout Europe. Were we to adopt this approach, it would be a long and gradual process to approach where Europe is on this issue, but probably a worthwhile approach in the long run, for reasons just stated.
Here’s Perry’s claim:
And, here’s the reality: Gross domestic product plunged to 2.2 percentage annual rate, the Commerce Department said on Friday in its advance estimate, moderating from the fourth quarter’s 3 percent rate.
Notice Perry’s numbers don’t match up with what Obama’s Commerce Department is reporting? And, use of moderating above means GDP fell .8% in the last 3 months, that’s not growth, that’s a decline of over 25%.
Perry wrote
In other words, Barack Obama’s hand-picked Energy Secretary is embarking on an effort to make energy prices “necessarily skyrocket” in order to strip We the People’s freedoms away from us and force us to do what the Tyrant Administration wants to do. And economic retraction is their way to do it. Exploding the cost of living through outrageous taxes and crippling regulations. Not the America the Founders fought and died for. Not the America I would ever want. Not the America set up in the Founding Documents of the Declaration and the Constitution. But a Soviet version of America.
Been posted here a million times, but SINP as usual can’t remember.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Tmi_fpUHs
[Edited to add cited video. No other changes made. -- JH]
According to the numbers, Cheney/Bush created about 1 M net jobs in their eight years, whereas President Obama has created 3 M.
I have thought that they were accurate, but now that I have just researched the issue, it is much more complicated in trying to attribute job growth or decline to one particular administration.
Here is one bottom line:
Here is a reasonable comparison of the performance of the two administrations:
Considering that Obama has inherited a much steeper dip in jobs than Bush did, comparing the two at the same point in their terms, President Obama has done much better than President Bush did!
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/in-bush-v-obama-bush-wins-in-a-rout/
The key paragraph:
Perry relies on Molly for his research. Click on his link.
You just simply cannot resist, can you koolo? Thus, again, evidence of your acerbic personality!
But on the issue, you are correct, the President says he “would have preferred a gradual adjustment in oil prices”. That is not the President saying that he wants higher gas prices, koolo; so you appear to have it wrong!
Moreover, since your clip is Republican (RNC) propaganda (figures!), the context of the President’s statement is not revealed. So here may have been the context:
Thus, the statement seems to have been made in the context of a cap and trade discussion which, if phased in properly, would result in a gradual increase in prices at the pump.
How is it, koolo, that GWB made things better, by racking up a deficit totaling $4.9 T, and generating off-budget expenditure policies which President Obama inherited, accounting for 88% of the $5.0 T deficit which has occurred in his term?
You people need to start dealing with the truth!
Do you dispute the numbers, ropelight? If so, give us your cite!
I can’t resist?? You mean like you not resisting the urge to continually and constantly demand cites for that which has been posted time and time again???
The FACT is that Obama has said he wanted (wants) higher gas prices. His energy sec. has said so. His EPA wants to crucify oil companies. To those whose heads aren’t in the sand, this means this administrations wants higher energy costs.
Citation please! And please — do NOT include the “price” of Bush’s tax cuts. That’s complete and utter nonsense.
Hrmmm. I wonder what happened in that time-frame. Oh! That’s right! Democrats took control of both Houses of Congress in January, 2007 and adamantly refused to cooperate with the Moderate, Big Government, Republican Establishment President! It wasn’t until after Democrats took over Congress that the US fell into a deep recession! Prior to the Democrats taking over Congress, the US was still in up, up, and away! land!
John McCain had long been warning that the CRA-caused housing bubble was going to collapse and in spectacular fashion, and that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were a wholly unstable house of cards. Barney Frank, the retiring Democrat Representative from Massachusetts who has admitted Democrats shouldn’t have passed ObamaCare, and definitely shouldn’t have done so the way they did it, was at the time loudly declaring anyone who said the CRA-caused housing bubble was going to burst and that Fannie and Freddie were wholly unstable was a racist because, why, even suggesting such a thing meant those evil Republicans didn’t want blacks to own homes. Barney Frank said something to the effect that FM2 were as good as gold and as stable as the US itself.
Well, gold has skyrocketed, and the US Government is getting nearly as financially unstable as the European PIIGS (and do look up that acronym). And John McCain was right. And Barney Frank was busily using the race card as only a lying Democrat can. But, hey, at least the economy didn’t crash under a Democrat Congressional watch… oh, wait, it did.
So Molly, the self-professed Liberal and “Progressive” (read Socialist), admitted that she was all good until shortly after the Democrats took power in Congress. Yeah, Perry, your choice of sources is fatally flawed. And yeah, Perry, her numbers were already discredited by the Federal Government’s own official numbers.
As for SINP’s claim about “off budget” spending accounting for Obama debt increases? Nonsense: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/
And, Perry, quit with your asinine claim that a bazillion percent of Obama’s deficits belong to Bush. It is a lie from the pits of sheol. As evidenced by the fact that Obama’s deficits more than tripled the Republican deficits prior to the Democrat Congress of 2007 and 2008 ramping up deficit spending with the acquiescence of a Moderate, Statist Ruling Class Republican who was not and is not a Conservative.
And this is from BLS. Isn’t Employment Numbers just great?? And these percentages are only from those looking for work and doesn’t include those who have given up. And isn’t BO doing a grand job on this. (where’s the editor’s dripping sarcasm tag)
OOOOOPS!!!! Must be Bush’s Fault
From The Wall Street Journal:
More at the link.
No, koolo, your Heritage cite, which was written in March, 2009, puts all the blame for the deficit which President Obama inherited on him, who had been in office for only about three months. Moreover, the fiscal year is from October 1 to September 30, so we were still operating on the Bush budget in March of 2009. Therefore, for author Carroll to put all this on the President is nothing more than a partisan falsehood, which then puts his entire piece to question with respect to anything resembling a fair analysis.
Again, according to the Secretary of the Treasury, the debt:
Under Bush went from $5.7 T to $10.6 T, up $4.9 T
Under Obama went from $10.6 T to $15.6 T, up $5.0 T.
Those are the facts, koolo. And here is another fact: Under Obama, 88% of the debt was due to a carry over of policy from the Bush Administration.
And are you going to excuse Bush for putting off-budget the cost of two wars, two tax cuts favoring the wealthy, and Medicare Part D? If you do, then you are insincere and ducking the truth.
These deficit expenditures add up, thus creating uncertainties which undermine both consumer and business confidence. Is not this exactly what we have seen, and to be expected when in the process of recovering from a Great Recession which happened during the Bush watch?
And on top of all this, we have had to deal with weak housing, high unemployment, a crisis in Europe, instability throughout the Middle East, crisis in Japan, weather shocks worldwide, threats from Iran and North Korea, and oil price shocks. And your side’s decision to be uncooperative from Obama’s day one has made matters much worse.
Any President would have had a serious challenge dealing with all this. Fortunately we have had a calm and brilliant man at the helm, or things would have been much worse by now.
A majority of Americans understand all this, as we will see reflected at the biggest poll of them all, on election day 2012. Prepare for the Obama second term, which will be yet better than the first!
Exactly, Mr Editor, weaker growth is exactly what you Repubs want, to give you a better shot in November, isn’t that correct? And weak or no growth is what you’ve wished for since January of 2009, isn’t that also correct?
In spite of all this, I predict that your failed and unpatriotic strategy is well known to American voters, so they will respond in their own best interests as they look to the future and cast out the Ryan Plan for the evil that it really is!
Well at least unempolyment is down from the peak as a carryover from the Bush Administration policies. That’s not good enough, granted, but it is a 20% improvement, not too bad!
Citation for this. And that figure on the face of it is spurious as the stimulus was just under $1 trillion, yet Obama’s total debt at this point at approx $5 trillion. That alone makes Obama responsible for 20% of that debt, even granting your “blame Bush for the debt” scenario, not 12%.
Or, will you now claim that a portion of the stimulus is also Bush’s fault? And on that same tone, how often did Bush blame the recession he inherited for any of the woes he faced? How often did he blame the economic downturn due to 9/11?
And are you going to excuse Bush for putting off-budget the cost of two wars
That’s precisely the reason I put the Heritage cite there — the wars were NOT off budget. You obviously didn’t read it.
Except, of course, that you and Obama do just that to President Bush. And it was Bush’s budget due to the fiscal year? Which party controlled both houses of Congress during that time, SINP? Or, as you said, “put[ting] all this on the President is nothing more than a partisan falsehood, which then puts his entire piece to question with respect to anything resembling a fair analysis.” In other words, your analysis.
The bottom line is you’re doing what you always do: When it’s your guy, it’s someone else’s fault. When it’s the other guy’s guy, it’s all solely his fault.
Lame.
Oh gosh, and here I thought SINP was soooooooooo against name calling and personal attacks. Except that, to him, a mere difference of opinion from him means one is “unpatriotic.”
Just yet further evidence that SINP is either
1) pathetically duplicitous,
2) a liar,
3) purposely a hypocrite,
4) severely mentally unstable,
5) all of the above.
LOL … you got nailed on this lie before, SINP. Unemployment when Obama was inaugurated was a bit above seven percent. It’s still above eight, now.
Another SINP lie, torn asunder.
To not work with the party in power when the country is in dire straights is certainly unpatriotic, koolo!
And please recall Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell’s statement at the outset of President Obama’s term, to the effect that his first priority was to assure that the President would be a one-term President.
Is that your definition of a patriotic attitude, koolo?
It is, eh? Then where were you from 2000-2008? This is yet just another example of your fake “bridging the gap” nonsense. When your party is a determined opposition, this is a benefit. When the other party is, it is “unpatriotic.”
You give charlatanry a whole new meaning, SINP.
Do you seriously think that NO Democrat didn’t want GW Bush to be a one-term president? Seriously? It’s because of proposed policies that McConnell said what he said, SINP, and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with it.
I just got done writing an article about some dumb broad who left her irony on. You see, most people’s ironies only have dials up to 10 and hers goes up to 11. And I showed how Perry’s goes all the way up to 12. I think I might need to revise that. Because I think Perry just hit 13 on the irony meter.
Perry, your irony meter has done hit the jackpot!
[Comment edited to add Irony Meter; no changes made to content. -- Editor]
And, Perry, you radical Socialists (and you are one) were busily saying “he’s not my President!” when talking about President George Herbert Walker Bush. You can deny it, and I expect you will deny it with your wholly dishonest “citation please, or admit you’re a liar” lies. But everyone who knows the least little bait about the US’s current history knows I laid down the facts.
I trust that the Secretary of the Treasury knows more than you do, koolo! And the citation is his appearance on Meet the Press on April 15th.
Not at all, koolo. Disagreeing with you is hardly a lie, except to wingnuts who *know it all*.
Only an ignorant fool would put the Bush unemployment carryover onto his successor. The Bush Great Recession did not end in January 2009. In fact, it is projected that it will take 7 to 10 years before complete recovery, if ever. The Great Depression took 10 plus years, and huge quantities of stimulus money is what ended it. Your party’s policies have severely damaged our economy, of that there is no doubt, except to spinners and liars like you and your ilk, koolo.
And by the way, the stimulus was $787 B, all of which may not have been spent.
Perry, I have a task for you. I know you won’t rise up to the challenge because you’re a typical Socialist: cowardly and dishonest. But I’m giving you the challenge anyway. And here it is:
1) Select a poll you like, with outcomes you like.
2) Determine its R/D/I weighting.
3) Normalize the weighting according to the 2008 General Election R/D/I output.
4) Reformulate the numbers.
5) Report back to us on those reformulated numbers.
You will not do it, Perry, and that’s a fact. And part of the reason (other than you’re too blame lazy to do it) is because the numbers, once reformulated to that setting, will destroy absolutely all your memes.
And that isn’t even getting into the fact there are a smaller percentage of Democrats and a larger percentage of Republicans today than there were in 2008 (despite your favorite polls claiming the exact opposite and then some in their weighted numbers).
A little honesty destroys the Leftist meme, just like a little sunshine is the best disinfectant.
To be believed, you need to prove that statement, Mr Hitchcock, since us old timers know how you make stuff up, plus make unattributed statements which you assume we will accept, because you said so. No way! You don’t know what a fact is unless you happen to trip over one. Your savory reputation has been too well established over time!
And here is another one right here:
Both parties unfortunately, consolidate around President Bush following 9/11, and most even acquiesced to his taking us to war against Iraq, despite seriously questioning the alleged facts which his neocon compatriots presented at the time. Since I opposed the war from the getgo, based on information published in the British press, does that make me unpatriotic? Hardly, the opposite actually. The “unhinged” was the leadership we had at the time, as history now has revealed and proven, the start of the precipitous downfall of this nation. All hope recovery will be gone should we return these wingnut thugs to power, in my opinion.
Since us old-timers know for a fact unhinged Leftists from all corners of the US were delclaring GWB “not my President”, and since us old-timers know I don’t lie but you do, you lose yet again.
Oh, and how about that thing about you claiming my blog-site, which is going through a rather extended period of comparable hits as this site, is irrelevant since it gets so few comments, yet you quote from some anonymous radical Leftist who gets next to no comments as if her statements are golden?
You peg the irony meter practically every time you comment. And that’s the unvarnished truth.
What honesty? Where? I don’t see any coming from you, Mr Hitchcock!
You simply cannot deny the poll numbers favoring the President. Nevertheless, we must all wait until election day, won’t we?
If your side perchance happens to win, it will be because you bought it with money, Super PACs, and outright lies, which has been the mantra of your despicable party in recent years. That said, there is a handful of Republicans worthy of respect, but only a handful, in my view.
Given the insane and pathetic state of the present Republican Party, the recovery of our economy is being made much more difficult than need be, because of their thirst for power over and above any residual patriotic instincts which would ordinarily make for cooperation to work on our problems. ‘Tis a damn shame, but that is the way it is! Therefore defeating them is a must!!
Correction:
consolidateconsolidatedAre you absolutely and totally stupid? Or are you so hyper-partisan that you absolutely refuse to examine anything? More likely, you’re a lemming.
When a poll of 51 percent Democrats and 49 percent “other than Democrats” gives Obama a 50 percent approval rating, your false god Obama is in deep doo-doo. First off, Democrats do not have a Majority status among “all adults”. Second off, Democrats do not have a +9 rating compared to Republicans among “all adults”.
I issued you a challenge, Perry. Why don’t you take up my gauntlet? Why don’t you take the outrageously Leftward-skewed poll data and adjust it to the 2008 R/D/I? I mean, seriously, it would still be skewed further to the Left than current numbers! Why can’t you even do that?
I know why you cannot set the NYT, CNN, WaPo, PMSNBC polls to the 2008 R/D/I! Because the new numbers would absolutely devastate your meme! You would be worse off than Yorkie! At least he has one leg to stand on! You would have none!
I double-dog-dare you, Perry! Normalize the weighted polls you love so much to the 2008 breakouts! But here’s a hint, Perry: Some of the polls won’t let you, even if you wanted to. Because they refuse to release their R/D/I weightings. Because they know their lies would immediately be called out as such and lemmings like yourself might quit listening to them.
A distinction without a difference. WW wrote:
Uhhh, gasoline is refined from crude oil; if the price of oil increases, then the price of gasoline, and anything else made from crude oil, also increases.
WW wrote:
The problem is that the party in power since January 2009 has been wrong! To have just gone along with teh Democrats would have made the Republicans irresponsible and unpatriotic.
And, of course, you didn’t seem to have too much of a problem with the Democrats resisting President Bush’s programs, did you? You wrote:
You called it “unfortunate” that the Democrats supported President Bush after September 11th, yet you have the temerity to write, “To not work with the party in power when the country is in dire straights is certainly unpatriotic?” Let me go ahead and correct what you said, for your real meaning:
Let me offer a more long winded interpretation:
When Democrats control the White House, Republicans must abandon their hopes and dreams, reject the accumulated wisdom gleaned from long experience, turn their backs on the principles which guided our founding fathers, and mortgage the future of our children and grandchildren so Democrats can buy enough votes to win the next election.
Otherwise, Democrats will accuse Republicans of bourgeois treachery and disloyalty, resistance to Marxist progress, and racist thought crimes.
However, when the GOP controls the White House Democrats are free to offer aid and comfort to our enemies, ridicule patriotism, undermine the legitimacy of our elected leaders, and reveal national security secrets in the NY Times, all of which will be hailed in the mainstream media as proof positive that protest is patriotic.
International Marxists in tuxedos will then award Democrats fancy prizes, prestigious appointments, and highfalutin titles to prove they’re in touch with the little people.
No, Mr Editor, either you didn’t/don’t understand my position or you are twisting it. Nevertheless, I stand behind my statement which you quoted.
Contrary to today’s radical/unpatriotic Republican Party, the Dems, in the 9/11 timeframe, rallied around President Bush, who responded in fine fashion at that time. Where President Bush went badly wrong, was his ultimate decision to go to war against Iraq with trumped up charges which appeared to me to be false at the time, and later proved my suspicions to be correct.
Your problem is that you do not understand the distinction between the parties working together to fashion a compromise solution, which the Dems have done routinely, and one party refusing to do this, which the current Republican has steadfastly refused to do. And that is a well-known fact!
My other major quarrel with you, Mr Editor, is your continued insistence that President Obama has failed, which even the most biased of observers would label as untrue. But your bias against our President is so extreme that you cannot bring yourself to give him due credit for a single thing, except to say that he seems a friendly guy. That’s on you, Mr Editor!
WW wrote:
If your statement were true, the Democrats would not have lost control of the House of Representatives in the 2010 elections, and President Obama’s re-election would not be in the least bit of doubt. If your statement were true, President Obama would be running on his record, and our strong economy, and his successful foreign policy. He’s not doing that because the economy is weak, his record is terrible, and our foreign policy is shaky.
His latest ploy is to run on the fact that he gave the easiest order he could, to launch a strike at Osama bin Laden’s hideout, and imply that Mitt Romney wouldn’t have given the same order. Any president would have given that order, when presented with the opportunity.
The funniest part is that the ad is narrated by former President Bill Clinton, who turned down an opportunity to take custody of Mr bin Laden in 1996.
Mr Hitchcock, I stand by my comment.
I am not interested in following up on your challenge, because in the end it really doesn’t matter, because it is the election result that finally matters.
From my viewpoint, the only way I can see a Romney victory is if the Republican voter suppression efforts have a significant impact, which they might, and/or if the Super PAC lies and distortions have a significant impact as well, which they very well might.
I simply cannot comprehend the prospect of our going back to the failed neocon policies of the 2000-2008 era.
Today’s Republicans have become so radical, so Machiavellian, so unprincipled, so anti-American, and so anti-democratic, that there is nothing they would not do to take back power; I am convinced of that! And people like you, our Editor, and koolo would readily, even happily, overlook any malicious tactic used to obtain your victory in November, because that is the way you are!
You folks have already demonstrated these behaviors by dirty tricks in 2000 and 2004, by what your neocons initiated and launched against a sovereign country, Iraq, and by underlining all this behavior by what you have done against the duly elected President of our United States from day one of his administration. And there’s lots more relating to your domestic policies that have succeeded in moving the wealth of this nation from the middle and poor to the top. It’s all about money and power, that you folks are the manipulation experts on these, as the results have demonstrated in spite of the advent of President Obama.
These behaviors of yours do not fit my perception of American values, as we have deviated seriously from them following our successful conclusion to WWII, the post war economic recovery, and the domestic social accomplishments in the area of civil rights and equality of opportunity. These accomplishments followed by losses and failures have occurred in my lifetime, in spite the recent emergence of a very talented and inspirational leader who approaches the stature of Abraham Lincoln in my mind. Unfortunately, even he has not been able yet to overcome the dark forces which have been growing in our nation. Why are we letting this happen to us?
That’s an interesting comment from one who points to exits polls in Ohio in 2004 as evidence of “fraud” and “robbery” instead of looking at the actual election results.
SINP — busted on his outrageous hypocrisy yet again.
Key words: “in my mind.” A mind which is bordering on pure delusion, comparing Lincoln in any way to Obama. Pure. Delusion.
Then again, it kinda makes sense that you want to compare the two; Lincoln was probably the first American dictator in our history, so …
Hogwash! You obviously have no comprehension of the depth of the economic downturn for which your party is largely responsible. Nor are you willing to have your party held accountable for same. That’s on you too, Mr Editor!
It certainly is understandable that folks who are suffering would wish to communicate their message to the people and party in power, which is exactly what the 2010 elections were all about. It is just crazy that your party should cause an economic calamity, then come down on the new guy who is unable to turn a miraculous recovery. No, this thinking is the mark of one who is both not in touch and extremely biased.
What makes you think that the President will not be running on his record. He has a fine record and will run on it. The shame is that your party has neither a record of accomplishment/cooperation, nor a vision for the future, and is headed by an unpopular flip-flopper who even is not particularly popular even in your own party.
Like I said, no credit from you for even one accomplishment! Hard to understand, Mr Editor. No, actually it is easy to understand, given your prejudicial state of
blindnessmind.I haven’t seen the ad. Regarding Bill Clinton, isn’t hindsight wonderful? But politically, where is your foresight, Mr Editor? As far as I can tell, it is to return us to the dastardly era of Bush-43 regarding domestic policy, only worse, and maybe foreign policy too regarding your apparent desire to launch another war, this time against Iran. And then after that, perhaps North Korea. War is in your blood, isn’t it?
I’m almost tempted to wish that you would take back power, because then the ineffectiveness of your party’s policy would be demonstrated with our precipitous decline. But no, to prove a point is not worth putting our country through four more years of your negligence and ineptitude.
I’ve given my reason for my conclusion, koolo, and it has to do with the results in Ohio being severely at odds with the exit polls, in favor of Bush, the only state in which this reversal from the exit polls occurred. Given that, and the corrupt Republican Secretary of State in Ohio at the time, I believe there was election fraud. And the 2004 election turned on the Ohio result.
That said, I would have no expectation whatsoever that a narrow-minded person like you would even consider the possibility of fraud, and frankly, I don’t care what you think. I only comment to your posts for the sake of others who might be interested in my view.
Wagonwheel stated: “So hardly is President Obama the “worst President ever”. Not only have you not demonstrated this, but his many achievements to date belie such a conclusion; in fact, the opposite, in my view.”
Now for a brief demonstration.
Obama and his Administration have…
1.Increased the deficit more than $4 trillion, causing the first-ever downgrade in the U.S. credit rating and for the first time raising serious questions about U.S. financial stability.
2.Issued 106 new major rules that cost U.S. businesses $11 billion in implementation and more than $46 billion each year.
3. Blocked Boeing’s new South Carolina factory from opening to assuage his union supporters.
4. Raided a Gibson Guitar factory for violating an arcane India law even though India does not believe the law has been broken.
5.Issued an “ambush” election rule allowing quick unionization and limiting an employer’s ability to present reasons for non-unionization.
6.Restricted how companies hire unpaid interns, cutting the link between students and employers.
7.Blocked the construction of the Keystone Pipeline that would have given jobs to thousands of American workers, further reducing the domestic oil supply and forcing our ally Canada to turn to China as a more willing partner.
8. Cut authorization of permits restricting drilling in Gulf and slowed permitting of new oil drilling so our future oil supply will be restricted and gas prices will be higher.
9.Mandated third party certification for all manufacturers participating in the Environmental Protection Agency’s Energy Star program, which has raised costs for manufacturers and created a disincentive for participation in the program.
10. Funded Solyndra and other unworthy companies, wasting taxpayer money but also discouraging other privately funded companies from entering the market.
11.Only moved on Bush free trade agreements and failed to enter one new free trade agreement, even while our competitors have entered many, making U.S. goods more expensive to export.
12. Pushed for passage of card check legislation that would infringe upon the rights of workers and make the United States a less desirable place to open a business.
13.Created a new rule requiring every employer to post notices on union “rights,” (found illegal by a federal court in April).
14. Changed rules on unionization votes so the majority of employees no longer need to vote to unionize, allowing easier unionization.
15. Disparaged the city of Las Vegas twice, which led to an immediate and dramatic fall-off in hotel room bookings and hospitality jobs.
16.Proposed onerous restrictions on government officials attending trade shows, threatening vital cooperation between business and government to create jobs.
17. Mandated that every hotel swimming pool have special access for the disabled, causing pools to close or hotels to add expensive add-ons, hurting the hotel industry and employment.
18. Imposed a requirement that every employer with more than 49 employees provide health care insurance or pay a fine.
19.Allowed the United States to become the highest corporate tax nation in the developed world.
20.Required every children’s product to undergo expensive testing, threatening thousands of small businesses that make children’s products.
21. Demonized businesses and one-percent income earners consistently as greedy.
22. Increased the number of IRS audits of successful job creators while dramatically cutting audits of those reporting no income.
23.Proposed regulating gas fireplaces in homes, threatening a large segment of the market despite no energy rationale.
24.Failed to approve one new nuclear plant, increasing our energy dependence.
25.Defended EPA “strong-arming” of property owners by threatening fines — March 2012 Supreme Court’s unanimously rejected EPA position.
26.Ignored proposals of his own Bipartisan Deficit Commission and thus guaranteed further choking deficits and financial uncertainty.
27.Imposed a 2.3 percent new excise tax on innovative medical devices.
28.Imposed a new investment income “surtax” of 3.8 percent.
29. Raised the Medicare Payroll tax from 2.9 percent to 3.8 percent.
30.Required every individual to buy health insurance as part of his healthcare reform, which the Congressional Budget Office says will cost twice as much as the White House originally advertised.
31. Proposed a seven percent hiring quota for “disabled” workers in every job category for government contractors, creating a new expensive burden to doing business with government.
32. Expanded the definition of “disabled” to include people with diabetes and heart disease, among others, and specified new quotas for hiring under this definition.
33. Opposed “repatriation” of U.S. corporate profits made overseas (and already taxed), thus encouraging U.S. companies to invest those profits in foreign enterprises.
34. Proposed higher taxes for business-use airplanes, raising the cost of many U.S. operations.
35.Sought to give the IRS the power to license all tax preparers, discouraging entrepreneurs by raising the cost to enter the market.
36. Attacked the Supreme Court twice directly, undercutting confidence in the separation of powers.
37. Raided California medical marijuana facilities, harming entrepreneurs and threatening medical treatments.
38.Sought and signed the Dodd-Frank financial reform law with its hundreds of new rules and restrictions that impose billions in new costs on financial companies.
39.Advocated for the “Buffett Rule,” which would discourage U.S. investment and barely dent the deficit.
40.Expressed plans to raise the capital gains tax, which would discourage U.S. capital formation and drive investment overseas.
41.Created new emissions standards for industrial boilers that may cost hundreds of thousands of U.S. businesses a total of $14.5 billion.
42.Pursued his campaign pledge to adopt electronic medical records, at an estimated cost of as much as $100 billion. The plan is already costing jobs.
43.Set new energy-use mandates for many products, discouraging innovation and consumer choice and raising product costs.
44.Imposed new restrictions on the number of hours driven by truck drivers, costing more than $400 million with no proven additional safety benefit and raising the cost of goods shipped in the United States.
45. Failed to confront drug company payoffs/rebates to doctors, thus raising the cost of health care.
46.Negotiated secret trademark treaties that are so secret their effects are unknown.
47.Failed to make government more transparent by restricting FOIA requests, according to the Washington Post, making review of government actions difficult.
48.Neglected to do anything about providing guns to Mexico drug cartels, which resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol agents, causing worldwide doubt as to U.S. rule of law.
49.Perpetuated the fraud of “green jobs” to sell and justify stimulus funds with little evidence to support the market for these jobs.
50. Investigated leading U.S. companies, such as Amazon, Apple, Google, Intel and Qualcomm, which encouraged other countries to do the same.
note: I don’t know how to do links so if you need the citations for each and every point they can be found at American Spectator where I stole this list from.
Wonderful growth opportunities. But I can see Obama winning in November provided the Democrats can suppress enough votes by busing in felons and illegals to cancell out the legitimate votes of responsable American citizens. Or perhaps they’ll just pull a few thousand votes out of the trunk of their car like they’ve done before. Worst President ever. A complete idiot and anyone who votes for him has a Machiavellian death wish for our great country.
Wagonwheel describes his view of President Obama:
Perhaps he meant President Andrew Johnson?
Of course, assuming that he meant President Lyndon Johnson, he wants to put his foreign policy accomplishments up against President Johnson’s first two years, in which we went from a relatively minor involvement in Vietnam to a major, and futile, American war effort? Or President Roosevelt, in which the country was mired in the Depression? Or even President Lincoln, after two years, with the country torn apart by the Civil War?
Geeze, Hoagie, it must have taken you a couple of hours to type that biased list of made up stuff from American Spectator. Kudos to you for the effort!
And by the way, Hoagie, here is your cite, for those who are interested.
“Severely?” Hardly. Citation please.
Nevertheless, thanks for making my point. To you, actual elections matter when the polls don’t make your preferred candidate look good; the polls matter in cases like Ohio 2004 … which puts you in league with Truthers, Birthers, and Fake Moon Landing-ers. You’re in good company, SINP!
In other words, SINP is saying, “Yeah, Hoagie! Gee, you did just what I did earlier in the thread, but, y’know, my list ain’t biased or anything because I got it from some unknown blogger, who, y’know, kinda referenced each “accomplishment” … y’know, sorta …”
The answer is to the right. After three years, three months, one week and one day in office, it’s still not President Obama’s responsibility, but it’s all Booosh’s fault.
President Obama ramps up our national debt by nearly a trillion dollars, for a stimulus package, passed within the first few months of his Administration, which is going to hold unemployment down to 8%, and three years later, unemployment is still above 8%! Yeah, I’m sure that President Obama wants to run on the unemployment rate! There are fewer Americans with jobs today than there were the day he took office; if you want to blame the economy on a political party, then that would make President Obama responsible for the economy under his Administration, wouldn’t it?
I actually believe you when you say that President Obama is “a very talented and inspirational leader who approaches the stature of Abraham Lincoln in my mind.” But if that is what is in your mind, it sure raises questions about your judgement!
I see. An administration official would never lie and/or exaggerate. Y’know, like said secretary did with his income taxes …!
SINP — busted again.
WW wrote:
Pretty much what I predicted, six months and twenty days ago, that WW would say. Of course, I can’t really say that that was a particularly bold prediction; it’s pretty much along the lines of predicting that the sun will rise in the (south) east tomorrow.
WW wrote:
Yet, when there is an actual proposal out there, enacted into law in some states, to reduce the potential for election fraud, you stand firmly against it.
Game, set, and match!
I cannot find the citation. It was an article by Robert F Kennedy Jr in Rolling Stone in 2006, which apparently is irretrievable. Nevertheless, the exit polling had Kerry the winner in Ohio by 4%, but the final result had Bush the winner.
Koolo, give me some citations on the election fraud which you allege. And please, I do not want anecdotes, rather, actual studies which demonstrate the frauds you claim there are. All I’ve seen so far are anecdotes. They don’t count.
Without evidence, then the conclusion is clearly voter suppression in the mostly red states which are pushing this photo ID requirement.
Well, there you GO! Case closed! Massive GOP voter fraud based on a four percent (“severely”!!!) difference in an exit poll at odds with actual voting results!!
WW wrote:
I’ll be kind enough to help you: Brad Friedman of the Brad Blog has been whining that President Bush somehow stole the 2004 election — one which he won by three million votes, and in which he carried Ohio by 118,000 — ever since 2004. What never seems to be considered is the possibility that the exit polls, conducted by an entirely new firm — the exit polling group from the 2000 election having been disbanded — using college kids who might just have been biased themselves and who might have somehow, some way, discouraged older voters from responding, could have been the ones which were inaccurate.
I find it amusing, though, that the Democrats, who were claiming that President Bush was an idiot who couldn’t do anything right, somehow had the skill to rig the election, an effort which would have required the complicity of hundreds of other people, and not only do it successfully, but do so without leaving any evidence at all behind.
Must’ve been the same skill-set which enabled him to bring down the World Trade Center with controlled demolitions, and still have that a secret today.
Where have I alleged such here? Show me where, SINP.
As Editor pointed out before, why would red states engage in voter suppression … if they’re already red states! And why have courts upheld these laws? And why does over 3/4 of the public support these measures?
Exactly. Or, how Bush “lied” about WMDs in Iraq, and, obviously knowing they were not there, went ahead and invaded anyway so that he’d come off looking like a massive buffoon!!
But here you go, SINP. Here’s your study, FWIW. I know it won’t satisfy you. Nothing any of us provides never does. Your mind is made up, just like any good Truther/Birther/Electioner/Moon Landing-er.
Obama = Epic Fail
Our first dog eating president promised that if his Stimulus Bill was enacted that unemployment wouldn’t reach 8%. Yet, it did and unemployment has remained above 8%.
In fact, over 3.7 million more Americans are without jobs since Obama took Office, 14 million more Americans are on Food Stamps, 10 million more Americans are living below the poverty line, and 20% of young Americans, 25 to 35, can’t find jobs and are living with their parents.
If Obama has his way we’ll all soon be eating dog food.
Why don’t you ask Blu if she has any spare tinfoil hats you can borrow … ?