Hypocrisy? Nahhh!

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Buffett gets a break on fee


By BRODY MULLINS

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett has argued that wealthier Americans should pay more to Washington, a rallying cry that has become a centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign.

But NetJets Inc., the private-jet company owned by Mr. Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., spent more than $1 million over the past three years to lobby Congress to cut a user fee, benefiting the company’s well-heeled customers, who buy or lease shares in planes. The reduced fee, part of the recent Federal Aviation Administration bill that took effect earlier this month, will save customers of NetJets and other similar companies roughly $83 million over about four years, according to congressional estimates.

The lobbying victory comes as Mr. Obama and congressional Democrats are using Mr. Buffett’s comments to criticize the likely Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, who paid a relatively low federal tax rate of 13.9% for 2010. Last year, Mr. Buffett called it unfair that wealthy investors often face lower effective tax rates than their secretaries, largely because capital gains are taxed at lower rates than salaried income.

More at the link. But it should also be noted here that NetJets, which Mr Buffett is expanding into China, is being sued by the federal government for unpaid taxes:


Private Jets, Buffett and Taxes


By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN

Get this: Uncle Sam is suing Warren Buffett’s company over taxes. Yes, taxes.

The United States government, in a little-followed case in Ohio, filed a lawsuit this month against a unit of Mr. Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, seeking $366 million in taxes and penalties. The Berkshire division at the center of the suit is NetJets, the private-aircraft company that caters to the nation’s wealthiest — the people Mr. Buffett says should pay more in taxes.

It is an odd twist that a company controlled by Mr. Buffett — perhaps the most outspoken businessman in the country in support of raising taxes on the “mega-rich” — is now in a dispute with the government over his company’s paying too little in taxes.

If I tried to make up a story about greater hypocrisy, I think I’d fail.

40 Comments

  1. Well, you’ve certainly pointed out hypocrisy on a rather grand scale Mr Editor, but examples of even greater hypocrisy abound. How about President Obama’s oath to protect and defend the Constitution, when in fact he’s actively subverting it?

    And if that whopper isn’t hypocritical enough to make a billy goat puke, Eric Holder’s promise to faithfully enforce the nation’s laws ought to make your blood run cold.

  2. ” How about President Obama’s oath to protect and defend the Constitution, when in fact he’s actively subverting it?”

    And the evidence that he is not is exactly what, ropelight? Or did you just tell another big whopper yourself?

    That said, I remain disappointed in the performance of AG Holder, for not pursuing the alleged Wall Street criminals.

  3. And the evidence that he is not is exactly what, ropelight?

    Try something you perpetually whined about during the GW Bush years — rendition, torture and indefinite detention — which Obama has upped to another level. Yet, b/c of his party, you remain mute now. Indeed, you’ve called him the “greatest president of our generation.”

    Tell that to those American citizens who Obama says he has the right to detain indefinitely w/o trial, hypocrite.

  4. WW wrote:

    That said, I remain disappointed in the performance of AG Holder, for not pursuing the alleged Wall Street criminals.

    To be an “alleged criminal,” there would have to be a reasonable accusation of specific illegal activity against said person. Just what crimes — not what you think should be crimes, but actual, against the law crimes — do you think have been committed?

  5. We’ve been through all this, Mr Editor, you know, banks issuing bad mortgages, investment banks bundling these papers then marketing same while betting against them with their short sales, which triggered the European bank crisis and the resultant melt down there.

    We had malfeasance by the bank auditors, and credit rating agencies, and by the SEC, all of whom gave dishonest reports which shielded the financial institutions from realistic and proper scrutiny.

    Then the banks had to be bailed out in order to prevent a major, global depression.

    Read this and decide for yourself:

    “Naturally, it’s unwelcome and unacknowledged. What we want to hear is that we were victimized and that, once the bad actors and practices are purged, we can resume the pursuit of uninterrupted and greater prosperity. So that’s what most crisis postmortems aim to do. They tell us who’s to blame and what we must accomplish to resume the quest for ever greater prosperity. Good policies will replace bad. To simplify only slightly, the theories of the crisis break into two camps—one from the Left, one from the Right.
    From the Left, the explanation is greed, deregulation, misaligned pay incentives, and a mindless devotion to “free markets” and “efficient markets” theory. The result, it’s said, was an orgy of risk taking, unrestrained either by self-imposed prudence or sensible government oversight. Mortgage brokers and others relaxed lending standards for home mortgages because they were not holding them but passing them on to investment bankers, who packaged them in increasingly arcane securities, which were then bought by other investment entities (pension funds, hedge funds, foreign banks). These investors were in turn reassured because the securities had received high ratings from agencies such as Moody’s, Standard & Poor’s, and Fitch. All along the financial supply chain, people had incentives to minimize or ignore risks because the volume of loans, securitizations, or ratings determined their compensation. The more they ignored risk, the more they earned. The result was a mountain of bad debt that had to collapse, to the great peril of the entire financial system and the economy.
    The Right’s critique blames the crisis mainly on government, which, it is alleged, encouraged risk taking in two ways. First, through a series of interventions in financial markets, it seemed to protect large investors against losses. Portfolio managers and lenders were conditioned to expect bailouts. Profits were privatized, it said, and losses socialized. In 1984, government bailed out Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company, then the nation’s seventh-largest bank. In the early 1990s, the Treasury rescued Mexico, thus protecting private creditors who had invested in short-term Mexican government securities. The protection continued with the bailout of the hedge fund Long-Term Capital Management in 1998. After the tech bubble burst in 2000, the Federal Reserve again rescued investors by lowering interest rates.
    The second part of the Right’s argument is that government directly inflated the bubble by keeping interest rates too low (the Federal Reserve’s key rate fell to one percent in 2003) and subsidizing housing. In particular, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—government-created and -subsidized institutions—underwrote large parts of the mortgage market, including subprime mortgages.”

  6. yet, after all of that, an anti-capitalist President and his equally anti-business Attorney General, haven’t been filing criminal charges. Maybe, just maybe, they haven’t because there are no actual crimes with which people can be charged.

    Just because you think that something is wrong doesn’t mean it’s illegal.

  7. “Just because you think that something is wrong doesn’t mean it’s illegal.”

    Creating bundled securities of unknown value, marketing it as if it did have value, then betting against one’s customers of same, that’s not illegal? I call that fraud, and so does the Left’s case described above. You don’t think it was fraud, Mr Editor?

    I think you would feel differently if you were say over 65 and lost your pension as a result of fraud by the biggies.

    The Right’s view is essentially that the government policies are responsible for the high degree of capitalist risk taking – typical of the Right – they are never to blame.

    This morality, or lack thereof, is quite evident on this blog, wherein Righties are rarely if ever wrong. Or another way of putting it: if you saw a bundle of paper currency in the street, you have the right to capture it and run off quickly. Every man for himself. No sense of who might then suffer from the loss, i.e., no sense of morals and ethics whatsoever.

    And you Righties pretend to be Christians? You fool yourselves; you don’t fool me!!!

    But wait, maybe our Editor does not speak for the rest of you Righties, so I’ll just wait awhile.

  8. WW wrote:

    Creating bundled securities of unknown value, marketing it as if it did have value, then betting against one’s customers of same, that’s not illegal? I call that fraud, and so does the Left’s case described above. You don’t think it was fraud, Mr Editor?

    You have a leftist President, with a leftist Attorney General, and apparently they either don’t think it was fraud or don’t think that they can make a legal case that it was fraud.

  9. Odd Wagonwheel, your sense of what constitutes a crime or fraud seems to depend of one is a “rightie” or a “leftie” or a “biggie”. But the great moral Wagonwheel would ponder the loss and wrestle the ethics of finding a bundle of currency. Sure you would. You don’t seem to have moral and ethical pangs when cheering the government steal other people’s “bundles of paper currency” though, do you?

    Meanwhile, the thief Obama and his cohort Holder prosecute no one. He must be a great disappointment to you lefties. By now I’m sure you believed he’d have every “biggie”, “rightie” and capitalist in prison and all their money divided among the deserving socialists. Sad really.

  10. “Try something you perpetually whined about during the GW Bush years — rendition, torture and indefinite detention — which Obama has upped to another level. Yet, b/c of his party, you remain mute now. Indeed, you’ve called him the “greatest president of our generation.”

    Tell that to those American citizens who Obama says he has the right to detain indefinitely w/o trial, hypocrite.”

    Typical koolo, attributing a position to me for which I have not expressed a viewpoint.

    It happens that I strongly disapprove of the President’s use of “rendition, torture, and indefinite detention”, whenever any one or all three are used, just as I did when President Bush started it.

    On top of all your other sniping, spinning, twisting and defaming, koolo, how about also not putting words into my mouth! You are indeed a sorry excuse for a teacher, based on your behavior on this blog. I cannot help extending your behavior here to your behavior with your students. You are you, and it seems to be in your DNA. Or tell me it is not so!

  11. Typical koolo, attributing a position to me for which I have not expressed a viewpoint.

    To the contrary, you’ve expressed it many, many times here and elsewhere. It’s not MY fault if your memory can only handle durations of minutes.

    It happens that I strongly disapprove of the President’s use of “rendition, torture, and indefinite detention”, whenever any one or all three are used, just as I did when President Bush started it.

    Yet, you’ve called Pres. Obama the “greatest of our generation.” That’s some reconciliation!

    You are indeed a sorry excuse for a teacher, based on your behavior on this blog. I cannot help extending your behavior here to your behavior with your students.

    So? You’re a sorry excuse for a man, let alone husband, father, and so on. I cannot help but to extend your behavior here on this blog to your interactions with your family, friends and neighbors. You must be one lonely individual.

  12. “Get this: Uncle Sam is suing Warren Buffett’s company over taxes. Yes, taxes.”

    Like it should be a surprise that “Uncle Sam” would sue Warren Buffet. I mean, after all, Warren Buffet has been a supporter.

    You see, it is the lockstep wingnut mindset that you do not enforce the law against a political supporter.

    The person who used the referenced quote, our Editor, did not pick up on this nuance. I wonder why?

  13. “To the contrary, you’ve expressed it many, many times here and elsewhere. It’s not MY fault if your memory can only handle durations of minutes.”

    That I approved of “rendition, torture, and indefinite detention”, koolo?

    You are a liar, koolo. That is an outright, bold-faced like, of which you should be ashamed. OK koolo, go ahead and prove your lie to be true. You cannot, because it is a lie. You owe me a correction and an apology!

    And the rest of your post is your usual made up, childish, school yard bullying behavior, garbage, which you do consistently on here, of which you should be ashamed. There is nothing wrong with expressing disagreement on the issues, but your persistent personal attacks on me are beyond the pale, certainly not consistent with the behavior of a good teacher. So I have been typically ignoring your childish behavior, and will continue to do so, koolo. You do not typically merit responses to your personal attacks. If you want to keep it to the issues, I am fine with that and will respond.

  14. That I approved of “rendition, torture, and indefinite detention”, koolo?

    Can you not read? What I clearly meant is that you constantly berated Pres Bush for those policies, yet there’s nary a peep from you about Pres Obama. Indeed, you call him the “greatest president of our generation.” So you know what you can do with the rest of your rant.

    And the rest of your post is your usual made up, childish, school yard bullying behavior, garbage, which you do consistently on here, of which you should be ashamed. There is nothing wrong with expressing disagreement on the issues, but your persistent personal attacks on me are beyond the pale, certainly not consistent with the behavior of a good teacher

    In other words, you do not like that which you yourself engage in here on a regular basis. And that’s a cold, hard fact you know. Your passive-aggressive disorder does not permit you to see it, I guess. That’s your problem. All your complaining about the above is absolutely, 100%, totally and irrevocably for NAUGHT because you are absolutely, 100%, totally and irrevocably no better in that regard than anyone else here.

    Or, does not actually threatening people on here count? You’re the only one who has done that in here, after all. So … who’s the bully? Who’s childish? Who’s full of garbage? Who should be ashamed?

    Take a long look in the mirror, SINP. If you can take the image.

  15. “Can you not read? What I clearly meant is that you constantly berated Pres Bush for those policies, yet there’s nary a peep from you about Pres Obama. Indeed, you call him the “greatest president of our generation.” So you know what you can do with the rest of your rant.”

    If that is what you meant, koolo, then why did not you say that. You did not!

    “In other words, you do not like that which you yourself engage in here on a regular basis. And that’s a cold, hard fact you know. Your passive-aggressive disorder does not permit you to see it, I guess. That’s your problem. All your complaining about the above is absolutely, 100%, totally and irrevocably for NAUGHT because you are absolutely, 100%, totally and irrevocably no better in that regard than anyone else here.”

    And your proof of that is what, koolo? You give none, because you are a demonstrated liar, a poor showing for someone who says he is a teacher!

    And as far as threats are concerned, if the so-called threatened parties, you included, had nothing to fear, there would be no threat. But you perceived one, so thank you for admitting to your god-awful terrible behavior on here.

    You are an immature individual who is out of control, assuming things about about me which you know nothing whatsoever. And your assumptions are wrong, just so you now know officially. But how you behave as a reasoning person, well has rarely been on display on a daily basis on this blog. You get an “F” for failure, with almost no redeeming value to show on here, unless you finally decide to display same by changing your attitude, assuming that you are capable of doing do. It is one thing to disagree on politics and values, but quite another to instinctively make daily personal attacks, which is what you do. Why do you behave so badly, koolo? You tell me!

  16. And your proof of that is what, koolo?

    Your behavior and comments here on a daily basis.

    The rest of your blather can be summed up thusly: Blah, blah, blah. We’ve heard it all before. I mean, take this:

    You are an immature individual who is out of control, assuming things about about me which you know nothing whatsoever.

    You mean like you assuming about me and my job-related abilities? Like that? You see, this is precisely where you prove yourself to be an absolute joke: You reprimand others for doing things which you yourself do … and in this case, just did! If you’re free to assume I’m a crummy teacher, then certainly I am free to assume you’re a lousy father, husband, etc. All based on what is written here. You’re all for fairness, right? Well, that is certainly fair.

  17. Perry assumed DNW was on Social Security and Medicare, because DNW refused to answer Perry’s demanding and personal questions. Perry assumed I had never been in the military (despite my frequently saying I had been previously), because I refused to answer his set-up question — set-up because he was fishing for ways to personally attack. Perry assumed I’m on Welfare because I refused to answer his demanding and personal questions. Perry does one sheol of a lot of assuming because people refuse to answer personal set-up questions.

    And, of course there were those threats Perry made against others on this site. Threats that got Perry suspended for TWO WEEKS. Because the EDITOR had no choice but to suspend Perry for threatening others. Because Perry would not listen, even after being sternly warned and being told what the consequences would be.

    In all honesty, I expect that, due to the 2010 elections where Perry was totally shocked by the results and due to the upcoming elections which are playing out in similar fashion, Perry is going to get more and more unhinged as the year rolls on. And it won’t be pretty.

  18. “Perry assumed I’m on Welfare because I refused to answer his demanding and personal questions.”

    By “Welfare”, this includes any one or more of the following: Unemployment, food stamps, welfare payments, public housing, fuel allowance, and any government medical assistance program.

    Well you are on welfare, aren’t you Mr Hitchcock?

    The reason for asking is to reveal your hypocrisy, because of all your oft-expressed anti-government ideology. Are you a hypocrite in this regard, Mr Hitchcock?

    I never have expected you to answer that question, because if you did so honestly, it would probably demonstrate that you are a hypocrite on this issue of assistance from the government.

    If you are in need and accepting assistance, I support it, simply because you are in need through no fault of your own. This is the Christian thing to do.

  19. “All based on what is written here. You’re all for fairness, right? Well, that is certainly fair.”

    No, koolo, that is certainly not fair. I do not behave like you do on here, with your consistent personal attacks on a daily basis, which is the foundation for my extrapolation.

    But tell me, koolo, is my extrapolation correct? If not, then tell me that you are an excellent teacher, and do not attack your students verbally the way you attack me on here.

  20. No, koolo, that is certainly not fair. I do not behave like you do on here, with your consistent personal attacks on a daily basis, which is the foundation for my extrapolation.

    What a riot. You really do live in a parallel reality. I believe most on here would beg to differ with your most ridiculous statement above.

    But tell me, koolo, is my extrapolation correct? If not, then tell me that you are an excellent teacher, and do not attack your students verbally the way you attack me on here.

    Sure — I don’t. But (*sigh*) again, I do not “verbally attack” you any differently than you verbally assault others on here. This is the cold, hard reality which you refuse to accept. This must be why you like Obama so much, because you’re so much like him in refusing to accept responsibility for even the smallest thing.

  21. Wagonwheel said: “The reason for asking is to reveal your hypocrisy, because of all your oft-expressed anti-government ideology. Are you a hypocrite in this regard, Mr Hitchcock?”

    I think you misconstrue Wagonwheel. Hitchcock is not nor have I ever detected him to be “anti-government”. He seems to me to be anti-big government. He sees limitations to government in order to maintain personal freedom that you don’t see. Government assistance is one of those ares. Hitchcock sees “the safety net”, you seem to think it should become a “hammock”. I don’t think any conservative here would not be included in helping a person who fell upon bad times. I’d even go so far to say we wouldn’t even qualify it as you do by saying “through no fault of their own”. We don’t care who’s “fault” it is, we are willing to help, for a limited time, if they are willing to try. We are not willing to support four generations on the dole.

    Hitchcock has never indicated here that he is either unable nor unwilling to work and work hard. Therefore should he need “help” from the government to get him over a rough patch I personally would have no problem.

    But we’re not really talking about men like Hitchcock, are we Wagonwheel? We’re taliking about the “professional poor” who have determined it is easier and more beneficial for you and I to pay for their existance, for life, then to make an effort to work.

  22. There you go, assuming again, and making personal attacks against people because you assumed things about them after they refused to answer your highly personal questions — questions you were using as a set-up to make inflammatory personal attacks against people. And you have a very long history of doing just that.

    Seriously, Perry, you should learn the First Rule of Holes, because you’ve dug yourself a deep one there. Like I said, Perry, you’re only going to get more and more unhinged as this year moves on. You’ve already threatened people on this site. You’ve already made outrageous accusations against people on this site based wholly on your own salacious imagination and innuendo, without a single shred of facts. Heck, you want to throw a whole bunch of people in prison and take everything away from them, even though they have not broken any laws!

    I would say you’ve really lost it, Perry, but I sincerely doubt you ever had it to begin with. You are, however, so much further off the deep end today than you were a mere two years ago. The grass-roots push-back against “Progressivism” (which is Totalitarian Socialism, only disguised) has really thrown you into a tizzy.

  23. Hoagie, you might want to reevaluate your understandings of my positions, based on my consistent declarations and positions over the past 3+ years online. For reference, you might want to start with my article Conservatives Understand Liberals, which got traffic from the Watcher of Weasels blogging group and a few other blog-sites. And I might have to write another article this upcoming three-day weekend.

  24. Perry can’t respond to principled debate, his mindless adherence to the ossified Left’s outworn dogma is daily repudiated here, like it was at CSPT. So, without an intellectually coherent response he’s reduced to his own ugly little campaign of personal destruction.

    We’ve seen it time after time, highly personal questions with answers aggressively demanded rather than politely asked, intrusive repetition followed by bitter presumption of the most negative sort, sometimes outright accusations bordering on, if not crossing, the line into criminal misbehavior, and the list goes on.

    Perry is all too typical of the brain-dead Left. They worshiped at the alter of a false god, they put their trust in charlatans, and now, in exchange for a lifetime of shameless mendacity, they reap only the grapes of wrath. And, in their hearts they know they have only themselves to blame.

  25. “What a riot. You really do live in a parallel reality. I believe most on here would beg to differ with your most ridiculous statement above.”

    Sure, because you all are wingnuts. I note that you never criticize the behaviors of your own, like Mr Hitchcock, therefore you are a total hypocrite, koolo.

    “Sure — I don’t. But (*sigh*) again, I do not “verbally attack” you any differently than you verbally assault others on here. This is the cold, hard reality which you refuse to accept. This must be why you like Obama so much, because you’re so much like him in refusing to accept responsibility for even the smallest thing.”

    Another koolo lie is upon us.

    Your side is are the ones who refuse to accept responsibility for the Great Recession your policies generated! And then you come down on the President who has actually done a remarkable job in bring our nation back from almost total financial destruction, enabled somewhat by the emergency actions taken by President Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury, Hank Paulson.

    If you were an honorable person, koolo, and ropelight as well, you would chastise those on your side whose behavior is as atrocious as that of the two of you. I am including Mr Hitchcock in this grouping of liars. But none of you do. All three of you are blind to one another. That earns no respect! It all has to do with singling out the lone Progressive on this blog only because said person is pushing back at your idiocy, and you cannot stand it and behave with dishonor as a result. Our Editor asked for civility, which your side breached almost immediately, and now daily. That’s on you, folks!!!

  26. Willfully blind, arrogantly disingenuous, consistently hypocritical, predictably presumptuous, usually petty, always preachy, never humorous, reliably bone-head stupid, and decidedly proud of it.

  27. Another koolo lie is upon us

    Nope. It’s a cold, stone-hard fact, moonbat.

    If you were an honorable person, koolo, and ropelight as well, you would chastise those on your side whose behavior is as atrocious as that of the two of you.

    Why should anyone be honorable around you — you who demonstrates not a shred of same? Is it honorable to threaten the livelihoods of others? Please tell us how “honorable” that is, moonbat. Really. We’re dying to hear how you can speak of “honor” about others, when you’re arguably the least honorable around here.

    And spare us the outrageous hypocrisy regarding “chastising others” here. Why should we do so? You never did so with PIATOR and the Iowa Liberal folk.

    You really do suffer from either a mental block, passive-aggressive disorder, or some sort of schizophrenia where you exist in some sort of alternate reality. This stuff is just never changes with you.

    But always remember: You say you’re here to “push back.” I am here to do just that to you. Precisely because you’re a dishonorable, lying, mischievous, hypocritical moonbat. If you don’t like it, you can ignore me or leave. But I am not going away. You wanna threaten me again? Go ahead. But you better be prepared for follow-up consequences if you do. Count on it.

  28. “You’ve already threatened people on this site. You’ve already made outrageous accusations against people on this site based wholly on your own salacious imagination and innuendo, without a single shred of facts. Heck, you want to throw a whole bunch of people in prison and take everything away from them, even though they have not broken any laws!”

    You have presented no evidence whatsoever for any of your allegations, therefore knowing your reputation for making things up, then attacking, your comments are worthless, Mr Hitchcock.

    When I criticize any of you wingnuts, I almost always precede my comments with your comment at issue. You almost never do likewise, Mr Hitchcock, which makes your comments worthless and meaningless as well, except to your wingnut cohorts.

    Moreover, I will note that none of you wingnuts ever criticize your cohorts for their atrocious comments and behaviors. This right there says it all about you malcreants. You all do not even have the creative talent at insults that DNW has, which makes reading his critiques a kind of comic relief, albeit as far off base as the rest of you are with your truly whacky political positions.

    Now let’s talk about whacky, the Ryan Plan, which Candidate Romney has embraced:

    “The Ryan budget is likely to be the totem pole around which the coming election will be fought. It is an entirely radical piece of business. Every budget is a political document; this one, however, is a campaign document — it is a right-wing fantasy and could not possibly be enacted. It contains several aspects that Republicans will love, like humongous tax cuts, focused on the wealthy; humongous budget cuts, focused on the poor. Because the spending cuts don’t outweigh the tax cuts by very much, the federal budget would not be balanced until 2040, unless there is significant tax remorm, the closing of loopholes that Ryan refuses to specify.

    ….

    This is obviously complicated stuff, but you can bet the debate over the Ryan budget will be simplistic and demagogic on both sides. It’s important to see the bottom line, though. Obama could have taken more dramatic steps toward long-term deficit reduction in his budget, but Romney has embraced a cynical, mean-spirited sham.” h/t Joe Klein, Time.

    And that’s the bottom line!

    And you folks have the audacity to think that the American voter is going to buy this crapola? You are fools for thinking that!

  29. Moreover, I will note that none of you wingnuts ever criticize your cohorts for their atrocious comments and behaviors. This right there says it all about you malcreants.

    It’s either “malcontent” or “miscreant,” SINP. Not “malcreant.” Learn the language if you actually want to say something.

    And again I note: You never did same with PIATOR or the Iowa Liberal crew. So spare us your never-ending pathetically self-righteous hypocrisy, moonbat.

  30. “Why should anyone be honorable around you — you who demonstrates not a shred of same? Is it honorable to threaten the livelihoods of others? “

    Finally, you admit to your dishonor, but you don’t get away with your attack. First of all, none of you were threatened; you perceived such, because you were aware of your misbehavior on here, not becoming to those who claimed to be school teachers, otherwise you would have perceived no threat. So that reflects on you, koolo, not on me.

    “And spare us the outrageous hypocrisy regarding “chastising others” here. Why should we do so? You never did so with PIATOR and the Iowa Liberal folk.”

    Another made up statement which happens to be another of your lies, because you are wrong, and you know it. You have a real personal problem here, koolo, and certainly should never be allowed to be in charge of teaching our children. You are a disgrace to your chosen occupation, as judged by your behavior on this blog.

    “But you better be prepared for follow-up consequences if you do. Count on it.”

    Pretty tough words from a weasel, koolo. It goes to show the extreme you will take to bully your way on this blog. My push back is intended to be on politics, but I cannot sit here and let you get away with your personal attacks and lies, so of course I must respond.

  31. Now back on topic:

    “If I tried to make up a story about greater hypocrisy, I think I’d fail.”

    Sounds like our Editor is calling “guilty” before the trial has even occurred. Have you lost the credo that a person is presumed innocent until proven otherwise? So your comment about hypocrisy is quite premature, of course!

  32. So that reflects on you, koolo, not on me

    Another lie. If it merely reflects on me, then why did Editor suspend you then? Just like your typical spoiled child of the contemporary era, everyone else is at fault, everyone else is wrong, everyone else is misperceiving the [obvious] threat, everyone else is acting dishonorably and wrongly … BUT YOU.

    Grow. The. Hell. Up.

    Another made up statement which happens to be another of your lies, because you are wrong, and you know it. You have a real personal problem here, koolo, and certainly should never be allowed to be in charge of teaching our children. You are a disgrace to your chosen occupation, as judged by your behavior on this blog.

    And you should not be allowed near a woman or children because of your unbalanced emotional state. You pose a danger to everyone around you, for no one knows when the aggressive side of your passive-aggressive mental sickness will take over. All based on your outrageous behavior on this blog. I’m guessing your wife probably has battered wife syndrome; you’ve frightened her into not reporting your madness to the authorities. Am I right, SINP? Oh, and if I am wrong, then there’s no need to get upset by what I just wrote. That’s what you tell us, after all, correct?

    Pretty tough words from a weasel, koolo. It goes to show the extreme you will take to bully your way on this blog. My push back is intended to be on politics, but I cannot sit here and let you get away with your personal attacks and lies, so of course I must respond.

    I wasn’t suspended to making threats, so who’s the bully, SINP? Just keep in mind what I said. You’ve taken it to extremes one too many times, and you will be called on it, I promise you, if you go that route again.

    My push-back is all politics related as well, and what you perceive as “attacks” are me merely pointing (mostly) instances of either your hypocrisy or lies/fabrications. You take them as “attacks” because I am targeting your radical comments and statements and rebutting them. You don’t like that. Thus, you act like an 80-something newborn and cry incessantly about “personal attacks” when all I’m doing is shredding your arguments, such that they are.

  33. “I wasn’t suspended to making threats, so who’s the bully, SINP? Just keep in mind what I said. You’ve taken it to extremes one too many times, and you will be called on it, I promise you, if you go that route again.”

    I have no control over your paranoia, koolo. Moreover, I repeat, your perception of a threat is just that, nothing more. Your threat means nothing whatsoever to me, and is hardly surprising, because that is exactly how bullies operate.

    I have no problem with rebuttals, or even “shredding” my arguments, but you always accompany yours with personal attacks, so lately I’ve been responding in kind, to give you a dose of your crap right back. You don’t even realize that you are the initiator of same, which is part of your self-perception problem. Moreover, it is a sign of the weakness of your arguments, that you feel compelled to include your personal attacks. And again, there is nothing from you about your cohorts who do the same. Why is that, koolo.

    Now let’s see:

    * … because of your mental state.

    * You pose a danger to everyone around you.

    * … aggressive side of your passive-aggressive mental sickness …

    * I’m guessing your wife probably has battered wife syndrome;

    * ;you’ve frightened her into not reporting your madness to the authorities.

    * you act like an 80-something newborn and cry incessantly ….

    * … when you’re arguably the least honorable around here.

    * You really do suffer from either a mental block, passive-aggressive disorder, or some sort of schizophrenia where you exist in some sort of alternate reality.

    * Precisely because you’re a dishonorable, lying, mischievous, hypocritical moonbat.

    * It’s not MY fault if your memory can only handle durations of minutes.

    All this, just in one thread, from one who tells us that he is a school teacher.

    I will admit, koolo, I have been responding in kind the last few days, of which I frankly am not proud. I wonder if the same admission of contrition will ever emanate from you. I seriously doubt it, but surprise me!

    And PS, my family is a happy one and void of the vicious accusations you have made on that subject, of which you ought to be thoroughly ashamed.

  34. * This morality, or lack thereof, is quite evident on this blog

    * no sense of morals and ethics whatsoever

    * And you Righties pretend to be Christians?

    * You are indeed a sorry excuse for a teacher

    * I cannot help extending your behavior here to your behavior with your students.

    * You are you, and it seems to be in your DNA.

    * You see, it is the lockstep wingnut mindset

    * a poor showing for someone who says he is a teacher!

    * You are an immature individual who is out of control

    * Sure, because you all are wingnuts.

    * When I criticize any of you wingnuts

    * except to your wingnut cohorts.

    * Moreover, I will note that none of you wingnuts…

    * This right there says it all about you malcreants [sic].

    * with your truly whacky political positions

    * You have a real personal problem here, koolo, and certainly should never be allowed to be in charge of teaching our children.

    * You are a disgrace to your chosen occupation,

    * Pretty tough words from a weasel

    Feeeeeeel the hypocrisy yet, SINP? In your own words, “All this, just in one thread, from one who tells us that he [used to be] a school teacher.” And all the above is from one who constantly complains about “personal attacks.”

    You’re a joke, SINP. And the best thing about it all is that you really do not realize what a laughing stock you make of yourself in here with your ridiculous hypocrisy.

  35. I have no control over your paranoia, koolo. Moreover, I repeat, your perception of a threat is just that, nothing more.

    Wagonwheel, the Editor declared what you did as a threat to Koolo’s livelihood. And the Editor said since this is his site, he has the final say in what constitutes a threat. So what you did was maliciously threatening behavior, merely because you don’t like Koolo’s politics.

    And like I said previously, you will undoubtedly become more and more unhinged as this year moves on. You cannot help but do so as the realization the American grass roots rejects your tyrannical Socialism becomes ever clearer in your mind (although you’ll keep denying the very reality you see).

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  37. And there is the article I told you I might write in order to correct you, Hoagie. I cross-posted it on Caffeinated Thoughts but not here. (Yes, Perry, I am an author on more than one site I don’t own, both of which are more active than my site, and my site being as active in a day as yours is in a month.)

  38. “I will admit, koolo, I have been responding in kind the last few days, of which I frankly am not proud. I wonder if the same admission of contrition will ever emanate from you. I seriously doubt it, but surprise me!”

    No contrition whatsoever, right koolo? Only more of the same! So I was dead on right about you. For you, it’s always about someone else, but god-forbid, not about you. Instead, you set yourself up as some kind of paragon. It’s just like your party line, that President Obama is responsible and accountable from day one of his term, with no responsibility or accountability whatsoever for the mess which your party’s policies and negligence caused this nation, which President Obama inherited. And perhaps worse, there’s no dealing with people like you who think they are always right and do no wrong, and then distort reality with all your lies of commission and omission. The truth is only a word, not a concept to you people.

    This is why now you folks cannot be taken seriously. I think enough Americans know/understand this, or will know by election day, and will deny your reclaiming power. We’ll see.

  39. Perry, your delusions of grandeur and your delusions regarding the 90 percent of the population that are to the Right of you will get you nothing but heartburn if you ever even attempt to face up to the facts.

    As noted in my ping-back, your ignorance has been absolutely trashed by these things called, you know, facts.

    But you, in your Socialist, Alinskyite, passive-aggressive, historically illiterate nature, will never learn anything. Because you are so unhinged, so divorced from reality, so hate-filled, that you are incapable of learning anything even remotely resembling the truth.

    Here’s a challenge for you, Perry. Come down to Harker Heights, TX. Walk around the major “shopping village” as I call it, since it has multiple blocks of stores and strip malls and restaurants. Walk around there and try to point out the adult who isn’t packing. I bet you’d be wrong. You are so lost in your little Socialist world that you cannot even imagine a place that is over 40 percent Conservative and over 35 percent Moderate and only 20 percent Liberal (of which, you are very clearly among the Left half of the Liberal 20 percent). You are so outside the mainstream and so incapable of even seeing the mainstream that being faced with the mainstream, you might have need of urgent medical care.

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