Government General Motors halts production of the Chevrolet Volt

Regular readers will recall that we had noted that our environmentalist friends thought that the Chevrolet Volt would be an absolutely great car . . . for their neighbors; for themselves, not so much. From The New York Times:


G.M. Again Pauses Production of Chevy Volt


By Nick Bunkley
Published: March 2, 2012

DETROIT — General Motors said on Friday that it planned to halt production of the Chevrolet Volt for five weeks beginning later this month because dealers had more than they needed.

The suspension, which will result in temporary layoffs for 1,300 workers at the Detroit plant that builds the Volt, is another troubling sign for the plug-in hybrid, whose sales fell short of G.M.’s targets in 2011. G.M. officials had already backed away from projections that they could sell 45,000 Volts in the United States this year, instead saying that production would match demand.

Production is scheduled to stop March 16 and resume April 23, a G.M. spokesman, Chris Lee, said. It will be the third time that Volt production has been stopped for at least a month since the car first went on sale in December 2010. G.M. tripled the plant’s production capacity during downtime last summer, and the plant was down for all of January in preparation for building a lower-emission version that is eligible for car pool lanes in California.

Much more at the link. But perhaps someone can explain to me how a plug-in electric car, with a small gasoline engine which will recharge the batteries if they start to get too low, can have emissions which are too high to qualify for car pool lanes in California?

Government General Motors sold 1,023 Volts in February, up from 603 the previous month; for all of 2011, 7,671 Volts were sold, out of an anticipated sales target of 10,000 units. With a current inventory of roughly 3,600 Volts, GM has a four month supply of Volts, based on current year sales numbers.1

General Motors invested a billion dollars developing the Volt. It’s basic sticker price is $41,000, and the federal government gives you a $7,500 tax credit if you buy a Volt. Even with the government subsidy, that’s $33,500,2 significantly more than your editor paid for his 2010 Ford F-150, with four wheel drive, which can go anywhere and do anything one could (reasonably) wish to do with a vehicle, for a car which has to be garage kept3, and which has only limited utility, pretty much of a second-car-only type of vehicle.

Of course, Barack Obama has already said that Americans like to drive their big SUVs and leave the lights on, and that their behavior will have to be modified, so perhaps he will try to find some way to just require us to buy these cars that we clearly do not want, at least do not want for ourselves.
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  1. 1,626 Volts sold thus far in 2012. 3,600 ÷ 1,626 = 2.21. Since the total sales were over two months, that means 4.42 months’ supply of Volts. 1,626 × 6 = 9,756, which would be the current annual sales rate for 2012, if the monthly sales rate remains unchanged. That’s pretty pitiful, but it would be an improvement on 2011.
  2. Buyers are required to pay the purchase price for the car; the $7,500 tax credit comes only when they actually file their taxes. For most buyers, this would mean financing $7,500 more.
  3. For the electric charging station: it requires a special electric receptacle, and the special charging cord is only 20 feet long

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  1. Of course, Barack Obama has already said that Americans like to drive their big SUVs and leave the lights on, and that their behavior will have to be modified

    Of course, that’s the whole thing, isn’t it? For the Liberal agenda to succeed, Liberals have to force everyone else to act against their own wills.

    Forcing people to buy health insurance when they don’t want to.
    Forcing Christians to pay for immoral products and immoral activities of others, against their religious beliefs.
    Forcing people to give up their 100-watt incandescent light bulbs when they don’t want to.
    Forcing “sexuality education” on the children of parents who are opposed (oftentimes through the relatively new “non-permission” slips, where if the student does not take the slip home, the student is forced to undergo the Leftist brainwashing coursework).
    Forced membership in a Union if the person wants a job at various companies, where the Union will forcibly siphon off Union dues and then use those dues to spend multiple millions of dollars fighting for a cause the forced-member despises.

    The Conservatives, on the other hand, value the US Constitution, which prevents the Government from all the tyrannical attacks on Liberty (the second enumerated Right) the Liberals are pursuing.

    No, if it weren’t for the tyrannical power of Liberals and their tyrannical agenda, the US would be much closer to being in line with its Constitution and much healtier economically, socially, and every other way. And We the People would be a much freer people.

  2. Extremism speaks,

    at war with Americans and especially American women,

    for small government except that which they wish to impose,

    like being against contraceptive coverage for women,

    like having a federal tax structure favoring the upper 1-2%,

    like being in denial of global warming and climate change,

    like being against a workers organizing against exploitive employers,

    like insisting on an absolutist’s interpretation of the US Constitution,

    like enabling church in state with deductions for tithing and forgiveness of property taxes,

    like insisting that Christian messages and icons be permitted on government property,

    like insisting that vocal prayers be allowed for government meetings and in public schools,

    like engaging in wars on women’s health choices,

    the list goes on and on from these tyrannical Rightie extremists.

    And take note of this: The outrageous attack of one Rush Limbaugh on women, specifically one 30 year old law student named Sandra Fluke, who had the audacity to testify against the war on women by the Rightie extremists, Rush calling her a slut and a prostitute, for three days, and not one word against this on here from our Conservatives colleagues, nor one word from any prominent Republican, not a one. No wonder Republican Olympia Snowe of ME is leaving the Senate. You people are morally depraved for not speaking out against your leader, one Rush Limbaugh, a total disgrace of a man. What is wrong with you people???

    Here’s the story in WaPo by Jamilla Bey:

    “Radio host Rush Limbaugh is so keen on pornography, he’s suggested an entirely new genre of it.

    In an attack against the Georgetown University law student, Sandra Fluke, who House Republicans wouldn’t let testify at a hearing on insurance coverage for contraception, Limbaugh shared his ideas about what should happen to women who dare disagree with him on women’s health.

    He said, “So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.”

    He also called Fluke a “slut” and a prostitute after she argued that birth control should be covered by health insurance at religious institutions.

    The Washington Post’s Melinda Henneberger argued in an earlier piece that Fluke may not have been the best witness for a very different reason: As a student, rather than an employee, of Georgetown, her insurance coverage would not change one way or the other under the Affordable Care Act as currently written, with or without a religious exemption to institutions like the Jesuit school Fluke attends.

    Fluke has, however, proven quite fit when it comes to resisting the hackneyed and typical attacks inflicted upon women who choose to raise their voices.

    Fluke said in a statement, “The millions of American women who have and will continue to speak out in support of women’s health care and access to contraception prove that we will not be silenced.”

    And how!

    What Limbaugh did – and does frequently – is “slut-shaming” and it’s no less hateful and derogatory than racial slurs.

    Any woman who dares admit that she is anything other than a virginal “Madonna” is rebuked and intimidated into silence and shame. And this tactic is profoundly dangerous in this context of helping to insure women’s health.

    “She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception,” Limbaugh said of Fluke.

    Let us ignore for the moment that Fluke was testifying about a friend who is too afraid to come out publicly and announce her need for birth control for a medical reason, and so spends $1,000 a year on medicines that are free or nearly so on insurance plans that don’t adhere to Catholic doctrine.

    This is a textbook attack on a woman for being female and for speaking up.

    Limbaugh, who invented the reprehensible slur “feminazi,” hurls that epithet at any woman who dares believe that insurance should pay for drugs her doctors deems necessary to the protection of her health. That includes women who are Jewish. Limbaugh feels it’s appropriate to liken those women to the terrorists and torturers who would have exterminated them.

    This is hate speech. There is no excuse for it. And it must be called out at the moment it is uttered.

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) silenced women’s voices by holding an all-male hearing on drugs that not a single participant would have cause to use. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) could hold alternate hearings.

    Limbaugh’s tactic of trying to silence women’s voices by making them afraid of the reprisals that will come if they express themselves is far more damaging than holding one meeting and not letting one woman speak.

    He wants women to be too afraid to say anything at all. His language crossed into the realm of sexual harassment when he demanded that women objectify themselves and submit their private sexual activities to him and the world to watch.

    Fluke was gentle in calling such language “beyond the acceptable bounds of civil discourse.”

    All because a woman dares to hold an opinion.”

    When are you folks going to speak out against this despicable, depraved broadcaster, your leader, that’s what I’d like to know?

  3. Wait, where’s SINP proclaiming civilization is now in dire peril because the Volt has been canceled? The seas will overflow, temperatures will roast us all, and we’ll all need oxygen masks!!

  4. You can just stick those complaints about Limbaugh where the sun don’t shine, SINP. At least until YOUR side gets its act together. Or, to put it another way, where were you and the media when, for example, Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a “c**t?”

    Spare us all your laughable one-sided indignation, not to mention that hypocritical gap-bridging. Real gap-bridgers denounce that stuff on both sides.

  5. When are you phony progressives going to speak out against this despicable, depraved broadcaster, and many others, that’s what I’d like to know?

  6. SINP writes

    You people are morally depraved for not speaking out against your leader, one Rush Limbaugh, a total disgrace of a man. What is wrong with you people???

    So, you’re morally depraved for not speaking out against Maher, et. al.? And what happens when I show you conservative after conservative who called Limbaugh’s remarks inappropriate, hmm? (I know — you’ll disappear like when Editor showed your lie about Santorum wanting to ban birth control to be a total fabrication.)

    And is it “morally depraved” to constantly criticize Israel and make excuses for Hamas, et. al. like you do, SINP? Of course it is. So your complaints are, besides being 100% execrable, are totally laughable.

  7. So now we have one more Conservative to add to the list of being unwilling to criticize his leader, Rush Limbaugh. Instead, koolo wants to avoid the topic by shifting the goal posts. You have now marked yourself, koolo. But guess what: I am not the least bit surprised.

  8. SINP writes

    So now we have one more Conservative to add to the list of being unwilling to criticize his leader, Rush Limbaugh. Instead, koolo wants to avoid the topic by shifting the goal posts. You have now marked yourself, koolo. But guess what: I am not the least bit surprised.

    1. Not my leader
    2. Never said I didn’t criticize him; what he said was inappropriate, like many conservative commentators have said.
    3. You are still a phony gap-bridger with your selective outrage.

  9. So koolo now finally comes forward with the strongest word he could think of: “inappropriate”. Well gee, koolo, that’s exactly what Speaker said. That must have been tough for you to say that, after being pushed. You should have been the first to come on here and condemn Rush Limbaugh, who is your leader because he is the leader of the Republican Party. We all know that! Moreover, you attempt to minimize Rush’s breach by attempting to make in immorality equivalence to someone else. We are talking about Rush Limbaugh here, koolo. Are you incapable of focusing on this depravity. Apparently Sean Hannity is likewise incapable. Moreover, he has attempted to defend Limbaugh:

    “On Friday’s edition of his radio show, Hannity said that Limbaugh was simply making the point that “for crying out loud, why is the taxpayer bearing the cost of the sex life of students at Georgetown University Law School?” Hannity also said that Limbaugh “did not mean it” when he remarked that that women who have contraceptive coverage should post sex videos online.”

    You and Hannity come out of the same mold, koolo!

    And now we have Bill O’Reilly exhibiting nothing but defense of Limbaugh and imposing his own attack on Sandra Fluke:

    “Bill O’Reilly waded head-on into the furor surrounding Sandra Fluke, the law student called a “slut” by Rush Limbaugh for advocating for insurance coverage of contraception, on his Friday show, relentlessly attacking Fluke and echoing Limbaugh’s argument that she simply wants taxpayers to pay for her sex life.

    Limbaugh — who also called Fluke a “prostitute,” said that he wanted her to make sex tapes so he could watch, and told her her parents should be “embarrassed” by her — has been making similar claims all week, and has been condemned by politicians, pundits and even some of his own advertisers, who pulled their commercials from his show in the wake of his comments.

    None of this seemed to trouble O’Reilly, who, while not mentioning Limbaugh and while not making his points in quite the extreme way Limbaugh did, sided firmly with the radio host in excoriating Fluke.”

    These are your people defending Limbaugh, koolo. When are you going to speak out more forcefully than “inappropriate” about this depravity, I ask?

  10. A gap-bridger, SINP, would have been the first to be on his lamely-read blog criticizing Bill Maher, Ed Schulltz and the myriad other progressive hypocrites for THEIR constant tirades. But you’re NOT a gap-bridger, SINP. You believe the delusion that you somehow are, yet you’re just another fall-in-line with the talking points fake progressive. Limbaugh must be stopped, but Maher is “funny.” Hannity must be stopped but Schultz is “correct.” Etc.

    It’s tiring, it’s laughable, and it’s pathetic.

  11. Right, all your Republicans, except for Scott Brown, say that Rush was “inappropriate”, just like you koolo. That’s not strong enough, based on Limbaugh’s behavior which has been repeated by him now for three days!

    And then we have Hannity and O’Reilly, per Fox News, actually defending Limbaugh. When are you going to speak out against these people, koolo?

    Yes, three days, and what has our Editor said about this, or Yorkshire, or ropelight, or DNW, or Mr Hitchcock??? Absolutely nothing! This silence speaks volumes!!!

    The silence on hear is deafening!!!

  12. “A gap-bridger, SINP, would have been the first to be on his lamely-read blog criticizing Bill Maher, Ed Schulltz and the myriad other progressive hypocrites for THEIR constant tirades. But you’re NOT a gap-bridger, SINP. You believe the delusion that you somehow are, yet you’re just another fall-in-line with the talking points fake progressive. Limbaugh must be stopped, but Maher is “funny.” Hannity must be stopped but Schultz is “correct.” Etc.

    It’s tiring, it’s laughable, and it’s pathetic.”

    More excuses! More goal post shifting! More spinning and avoidance of the issue. That’s what you are doing.

    This is all about moral depravity, koolo, for which you are trying your best to brush off, even unwilling to speak out against two broadcasters who stepped forward to defend Limbaugh and attack Sandra Fluke, the victim.

    This is really depraved! Don’t you understand this, koolo, or are you going to continue your tirade of obfuscation, as per a dutiful little right winger who fears really speaking out, more than just saying it is “inappropriate”.

    There is no gap-bridging that can be done with people like you folks with a head-in-sand attitude on an important a matter as this!

    Bye!

  13. Oh, and one more thing. Let us not forget the unwillingness of the Republican dominated committee hearing regarding women’s health issues, that not one woman was permitted to testify, not even Sandra Fluke, a 30 year old law student at Georgetown University, who volunteered to testify. Why was there not one woman on that panel, I ask?

  14. SINP writes

    Oh, and one more thing. Let us not forget the unwillingness of the Republican dominated committee hearing regarding women’s health issues, that not one woman was permitted to testify

    Another lie, just like the Santorum comment. Try again, SINP.

    BTW, nice thread-jack. Isn’t that a violation of the conduct rules here, hmm?

    And still waiting for your denunciations of all those noted. Until hell freezes over, it seems.

  15. I see Wagonwheel continues to refuse to acknowledge his refusal to condemn Leftists for their outrageous sliming of Conservatives. Like I said before, Wagonwheel has two very distinct standards: One on the ground for Leftists and one in the stratosphere for Conservatives. And I expect his double standards will always exist.

  16. Waagonwheel, you really need to explain to me what Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and O’Reilly have to do with the Volt. I would also like to know how the Volt causes you to sweat and worry over birth control. What’s the connection?

  17. Hoagie says:
    March 3, 2012 at 11:04 (Edit)

    Waagonwheel, you really need to explain to me what Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and O’Reilly have to do with the Volt. I would also like to know how the Volt causes you to sweat and worry over birth control. What’s the connection?

    It bears repeating.

  18. Wait a minute here. I just picked up on the outrage. It’s over the fact that Rush Limbaugh called a girl who sleeps around and demands I pay for her abortifacients a slut? Well, she is a slut! I mean, what else could she be? Unless she’s charging fees for her services (“dinner and a movie” qualify as “fees”). Is that the problem you have, Wagonwheel? She’s charging for her services so she can’t be a slut? In that case, if that were true, she’d be a whore!

    So which is it, Wagonwheel? Is she a slut or a whore? Because, based on her own actions, she has to be one of those two.

  19. And now John Hitchcock doubles down with Rush, and worse. Disgusting!!!
    Despicable!!!

    Not a one of you, not Hoagie, not koolo, not Mr Hitchcock, not a one of you has the guts to speak out against Rush, while not uttering a word in defense of the victim. This is chickens**t!

    Trust me, women will not forget this. Republicans are further damaging their party, assuming that is possible. And it is possible; look on FSJ for proof.

    “BTW, nice thread-jack. Isn’t that a violation of the conduct rules here, hmm?”

    There goes the chicken attempting to move the goal posts again. You are a master at it, koolo. Why did you not call the first post in this thread a thread-jack, koolo and Hoagie?

    Moreover, most of you sheep will not address this Rush Limbaugh issue.

    And where are our Editor and Yorkshire, AWOL?

    You people make me sick!!!

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  20. WW wrote:

    And take note of this: The outrageous attack of one Rush Limbaugh on women, specifically one 30 year old law student named Sandra Fluke, who had the audacity to testify against the war on women by the Rightie extremists, Rush calling her a slut and a prostitute, for three days, and not one word against this on here from our Conservatives colleagues, nor one word from any prominent Republican, not a one. No wonder Republican Olympia Snowe of ME is leaving the Senate. You people are morally depraved for not speaking out against your leader, one Rush Limbaugh, a total disgrace of a man. What is wrong with you people???

    Last I knew, our friends on the left said that what they did in their bedrooms was nobody else’s business, and we conservatives agree. Why, then, shouldf Miss Fluke decide to make her bedroom activities, and her desire that other people pay for her contraception, public information? What liberals insisted was none of our business, Miss Fluke tried to make our business!

    If she wishes to have sex in her bedroom, I do not care. If she wishes to use contraception, it’s none of my business. But when she stands up in public and demands that I pay for her contraception, she is making it my business.

  21. WW wrote:

    So koolo now finally comes forward with the strongest word he could think of: “inappropriate”. Well gee, koolo, that’s exactly what Speaker said. That must have been tough for you to say that, after being pushed. You should have been the first to come on here and condemn Rush Limbaugh, who is your leader because he is the leader of the Republican Party. We all know that! Moreover, you attempt to minimize Rush’s breach by attempting to make in immorality equivalence to someone else. We are talking about Rush Limbaugh here, koolo. Are you incapable of focusing on this depravity. Apparently Sean Hannity is likewise incapable. Moreover, he has attempted to defend Limbaugh:

    Given that there was no thread on this topic at all on this site, why is it that you somehow expected koolo to thread-jack onto that topic? Koolo is certainly a frequent enough visitor and commenter, but he’s not a site author and doesn’t have any particular site access.

    Perhaps I have somehow misunderstood the definition of privacy. I had thought that it meant thoughts and information and activities that were not the public’s business, but apparently I was incorrect. Apparently the liberal definition of privacy is that a liberal may make public any information about any topic that conservatives believe to be private, but no one is allowed to question or comment or do anything but agree with what the liberal said or wanted us to think.

  22. WW demands action!

    Right, all your Republicans, except for Scott Brown, say that Rush was “inappropriate”, just like you koolo. That’s not strong enough, based on Limbaugh’s behavior which has been repeated by him now for three days!

    And then we have Hannity and O’Reilly, per Fox News, actually defending Limbaugh. When are you going to speak out against these people, koolo?

    Yes, three days, and what has our Editor said about this, or Yorkshire, or ropelight, or DNW, or Mr Hitchcock??? Absolutely nothing! This silence speaks volumes!!!

    The silence on hear is deafening!!!

    The editor believes that Rush Limbaugh would probably have been more effective had he couched it in different terms, but that, basically, Mr Limbaugh was right. Miss Fluke decided to put her sex life out in public, to try to achieve the goal of having other people pay for her contraceptive services, and made it all our business.

    Miss Fluke chose to attend a private, Catholic institution, Georgetown University Law School. If she did not like Georgetown’s policies concerning what the institution’s health care plan covered, she could have gone somewhere else. It seems to me that, if she wishes to use contraception, and Georgetown’s health care plan doesn’t cover it, she has the option of either paying for contraception herself — and the notion that she can somehow attend a $50,000 a year private university, but can’t afford contraception, seems pretty silly to me — or going to a different law school, one where their student health care plan does cover contraception. Instead, she thinks that there should be a third option, one in which the federal government compels that private, Catholic institution to provide a service which is wholly against Catholic doctrine. I’d guess that if she got pregnant, she, and you, would expect that Catholic institution to pay for an abortion for her as well.

  23. Fluke could have avoided all those burdensome contraception expenses if she’d just followed Bill Clinton’s example and stuck with the ol’ Lewinsky.

    Shazam! No worries about contraception and as a bonus she gets the equivalent of a $3000 pay raise, plus she keeps her amateur status. That’s a triple whammy.

  24. And therefore, Mr Editor, you condone this Limbaugh outburst and language, is that it?

    “1. What does it say about the college co-ed Sandra Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We’re the pimps.

    2. So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.

    3. A Georgetown coed told Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex they’re going broke, so you and I should have to pay for their birth control. So what would you call that? I called it what it is. So, I’m offering a compromise today: I will buy all of the women at Georgetown University as much aspirin to put between their knees as they want.

    Even you, the father of two daughters, cannot find yourself capable of speaking out against this Limbaugh behavior, can you Mr Editor?

    Shame on you!

    PS: And by the way, how is it that you know that Sandra Fluke is using birth control pills for contraception? But even if she were, isn’t contraception a women’s health issue. Moreover, even if she were, isn’t it rather important to prevent unwanted pregnancy?

    Here, listen to the testimony of Sandra Fluke, and tell me what she said that would justify Rush Limbaugh’s atrocious on air outbursts against her:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlRC0nsjtKQ

  25. And now we have ropelight pouring gasoline onto this fire.

    Truly unbelievable!!!

    And even more incredible, our wingnut friends on here are being honest with their responses. You folks really do believe that Rush did not step out of line against Sandra Fluke.

  26. Here, listen to the testimony of Sandra Fluke, and tell me what she said that would justify Rush Limbaugh’s atrocious on air outbursts against her:

    No real need to. She basically admitted she sleeps around and wants other people to pay for her costs involved in her sleeping around. She admitted she’s a slut and now she wants to become a whore by charging others for her chosen sexual activities. It really is that simple. And she brought it on herself (all the appropriate names for people who do what she does thrown at her for doing what she does).

    What’s outrageous is the Left’s attempt to whitewash a slut’s activities and further attempts to help turn that slut into a whore. If you want to be a slut, that’s your business. But if you bring your business out into the public, don’t be surprised if your sluttiness causes people to call you a slut. And if you demand people pay their own money so you can continue your actions, don’t be surprised when people give you the appropriate name for that: whore. And, as far as I know, only Nevada makes whorring yourself legal, and then only within certain well-regulated parameters.

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  28. Since the comments about Rush Limbaugh and Sandra Fluke are way off topic here, I have opened a thread specifically for that topic, here. Please take additional discussion on that topic to that thread.

  29. WW:
    Moreover, most of you sheep will not address this Rush Limbaugh issue.
    And where are our Editor and Yorkshire, AWOL?
    You people make me sick!!!

    Well this sordid affair gets more warped. The last two days I doing a lot of driving for family issues. So, a lot of radio was on. The best of all warpness came at 2:58pm EST yesterday when Rush was signing off. It had come the the news world’s attention that Ms. Fluke’s surname was pronounced Flu…… and Rush couldn’t and wouldn’t say it. However, on the National news three minutes later, what Rush wouldn’t say, the news did. It’s pronounced FLUK, short “U”, not a long “U”. About fell out of the car laughing. Rush’s complaint is simple. Ms. Fluke wants us to pay so she can …… on our dime, not her’s. Afterall, she can afford Georgetown Law at $45k/year, room and board at $15k/yr, books at $2k/year, recreational sex, priceless – wait, that’s a BastardCard Commercial. Butthe Left has told us over and over and over, that what goes on in the bedroom is none of our busines. But Fluke made it our business. She canafford one of the most expensive Law School, but she can’t afford sex at a Thousand per year. Last week, I had not heard of the Fluke Follies. Had no clue they existed, now this week we’re all demons because we won’t pay for her sexual relations. Let’s all send her an aspirin to put between her knees. I bet her parents and family are just pround as anything for expose’.

  30. STILL waiting for the phony gap-bridger known as SINP to denounce Bill Maher, Ed Schultz, et. al. for THEIR language. Truly despicable! Disgusting! What is SINP waiting for??

    Not a one of you, not Hoagie, not koolo, not Mr Hitchcock, not a one of you has the guts to speak out against Rush, while not uttering a word in defense of the victim. This is chickens**t!

    SINP — lying again: http://www.journal14.com/2012/03/02/government-general-motors-halts-production-of-the-chevrolet-volt/#comment-12821 (see #2)

    (BTW, SINP — Editor is still waiting for your cite where Santorum said he wants to abolish contaception. Or, are you too chickensh** to answer?)

  31. “Not a one of you, not Hoagie, not koolo, not Mr Hitchcock, not a one of you has the guts to speak out against Rush, while not uttering a word in defense of the victim. This is chickens**t.”

    First of all Wagonwheel, this topic is of little interest to me. That’s why I haven’t participated very much. The Volt however, is of interest to me. Secondly, I don’t feel the need to either defend or speak out against Rush. He’s a big boy and can do as he wishes, just like you and just like Fiuke. And finally, I don’t see her as a “victim”, I see her as a perpetrator who wants others to subsidize her sin. The “victims” are the innocent people of conscience who she wants to force to pay for her needs regardless of the result.

  32. “And finally, I don’t see her as a “victim”, I see her as a perpetrator who wants others to subsidize her sin.”

    What sin would that be, Mr Hoagie? Violating the Ninth Commandment?

  33. Hoagie, apparently you didn’t get the memo. The relationship between the Chevy Re-Volt and contraception is one closely associated with, but not directly connected to, cause and effect.

    When people are home playing patty-cake, they aren’t out and about on the public highways in prehistoric gas guzzling monster machines unnecessarily spewing tons of hydrocarbon emissions into the atmosphere choking baby seals and killing rain forests just so they can get to an all night drive-thru fast food franchise, most likely owned by GOP backers who oppose unions and refuse to pay more that $10 an hour to unskilled high school dropouts and crack addicts.

    Or, in short, the more time you spend at home the less time you have to drive around assassinating Mother Earth. The Re-Volt was specifically designed for leftists so that they could take a break from the horizontal hula and dash out for a Big Mac without suffering a guilty conscience or having to buy carbon offsets.

  34. Hoagie wrote:

    I’d rather know Santorum’s position on the Volt on this link.

    That’s quite a reasonable request. Wagonwheel, please copy your comment and place it in a more appropriate thread.

  35. What sin would that be, Mr Hoagie? Violating the Ninth Commandment?

    10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

    ” … conservative Catholic organizations have been asking: what did we expect when we enrolled at a Catholic school? …We can only answer that … women would be told in the national media that if we wanted comprehensive insurance that met our needs, not just those of men, we should have gone to school elsewhere, even if that meant a less prestigious university …”

    The baggage of the leftist as it imposes itself on anyone and anything within political reach.

    Catholics have built something effective and prestigious. It wants part of it, and it wants in on it on its own terms.

    But, what else would one expect from the kind?

  36. I note that Hoagie did not bother to answer this question:

    “What sin would that be, Mr Hoagie? Violating the Ninth Commandment?”

    On the subject of the Chevy Volt, if we get stuck with ever higher gasoline prices at the pump, due to Middle East instability, and due to our post Carter refusal to move toward energy independence, you jokers might be quite happy that there are Volts on the road reducing the demand for gasoline. I will acknowledge that the price tag is too high, but the eventual economy of scale should reduce the price.

    I drive a 2007 Toyota Highlander Hybrid with 57,000 miles, which averages 25 mpg. I figure I’ve saved at least $6300 in gas so far, compared to my 1997 Ford Expedition which averaged about 13 mpg. I did pay an extra $4,000 for the hybrid over the standard, so with the savings in gas I have covered that and come into gravy from that day forward, not to mention what a great defect vehicle this Toyota has turned out to be.

    I have got two friends who have purchased GM cars recently, and both are very pleased with their purchases. Thanks to the buyout and restructuring, GM is doing very well indeed, as are their workers, a resounding accomplishment for our country!

  37. ” Wagonwheel, please copy your comment and place it in a more appropriate thread.”

    Mr Editor, koolo hijacked this thread, so I responded to his/her reminder. Moreover, since I no longer have administrative access, I can hardly move my post.

  38. WW wrote:

    On the subject of the Chevy Volt, if we get stuck with ever higher gasoline prices at the pump, due to Middle East instability, and due to our post Carter refusal to move toward energy independence, you jokers might be quite happy that there are Volts on the road reducing the demand for gasoline. I will acknowledge that the price tag is too high, but the eventual economy of scale should reduce the price.

    The problem with this argument is that the Volt has been selling so poorly that economies of scale may never be realized. For most people, it doesn’t seem like a practical vehicle; if the public liked the Volt, more of them would have been sold.

    Of course, given that President Obama wants to see electricity prices “skyrocket,” there isn’t much a person can expect to save in energy costs with the Volt: he’d buy a lot less gasoline, to be sure, but his electric bills would increase. The Volt requires 12 hours, at 120 volts, or three hours at 240 volts, for a complete charge. Just how many kilowatts will you be burning through to recharge your Volt?

  39. So far, I’ve seen exactly one Chevy Re-Volt on the road. My neighbor’s dog was barking at it, which attracted my attention. My first impression was that it looked alot like a low budget knock-off of a Toyota Prius.

  40. SINP lies again:

    Mr Editor, koolo hijacked this thread, so I responded to his/her reminder.

    Try looking at the second post in this thread. (http://www.journal14.com/2012/03/02/government-general-motors-halts-production-of-the-chevrolet-volt/#comment-12808) Then tell us all who hijacked the post again. That is, if you’re in a rational state of mind and are able.

    Why does SINP lie so much at this site? And why is he unable to condemn misogynist so-called progressives like Bill Maher and Ed Schultz, yet demand that everyone condemn Rush Limbaugh?

  41. SINP writes

    Moreover, since I no longer have administrative access, I can hardly move my post.

    And I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting to get it again, considering how untrustworthy you are.

  42. An administration cheerleader writes,

    “Thanks to the buyout and restructuring, GM is doing very well indeed, as are their workers, a resounding accomplishment for our country!”

    Gee, write off a reported 30 billion in debt (at least) through bankruptcy, sink all common stock, leave bondholders in the lurch, receive how many billions from the Feds (see figure below at Yahoo), and pay no income taxes for ten years while writing off loses that one would think belong to Motors Liquidation Company and not to GM LLC, and it’s a wonder that they ever managed to pull it off.

    “The filing reported US$82.29 billion in assets and US$172.81 billion in debt”

    wiki

    But with a little help here and there …

    “Treasury spokesman Mark Paustenbach said GM’s ability to hang onto the tax breaks it had before bankruptcy “depends on the application of long-standing tax rules to GM’s particular facts. The Treasury Department did not publish any guidance during the economic downturn that changed these rules either in general or for corporations that received government assistance.”

    GM said its tax breaks were partly reduced following its emergence from bankruptcy, although it would not give details.

    Why give GM a break?

    One reason the government might have let General Motors claim the loss, was to reduce the perceived cost of the bailout, said Linus Wilson, finance professor at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette.”

    CNN

    Amazing recovery, eh?

    “DETROIT (AP) — Just two years after it was rescued and reconstituted through bankruptcy and a government bailout, General Motors Co. cruised through 2011 to post the biggest profit in its history.

    The 103-year-old company, leaner and smarter under new management, cut costs by taking advantage of its size around the globe. “

    Yahoo Feb. 16/12.

    ???

    Except for the fact that it is not a 103 year old company. “General Motors Company was incorporated in the state of Delaware on July 10, 2009. General Motors Company began its operations when it acquired substantially all of the assets of Motors Liquidation Company (formally, General Motors Corporation) in July 2009.” Investor.GM.com

    The 103 year old company does still exist, it is just not the one Yahoo was talking about. It is currently known as Motors Liquidation Company, and has been warning common stock holders that their interests hold no value whatsoever.

    But Yahoo has some interesting things to say …

    “… the U.S. government, which still owns 26.5 percent of the company and needs more strong earnings to push up the stock price.

    The government owns 500 million shares of GM, which it got in exchange for the $49.5 billion bailout. Through earlier stock sales and loan repayments, the government has recouped about $22.3 billion of that money. The remaining shares would have to double in price and sell for around $53 for the government to get back the rest.

    Despite the big annual profit and optimistic outlook, GM still lost $747 million before taxes in Europe last year, and its losses are expected to continue until a restructuring plan takes hold. “

    Yahoo Feb 16 /12

    “Last week, it [GM] announced it had repaid the remaining $4.7 billion [Government loans].

    The automaker, however, didn’t repay any of the loans from its earnings. Repayments came from “other TARP funds currently held in an escrow account,” according to a report by the special inspector general overseeing TARP funds….

    The money in the escrow account was part of the government’s equity investment in GM and “was going to be available for future problems with GM,” Neil Barofsky, head of the inspector general’s office, told Congress last week.

    The repayment is “good news” because it means “they don’t need it, but we should caution that it’s not necessarily being generated out of earnings but out of other TARP funds,” Barofsky said.

    The repayment leaves the government with about $50 billion invested in GM”

    SFGate 4/27/2010

  43. “I note that Hoagie did not bother to answer this question:

    “What sin would that be, Mr Hoagie? Violating the Ninth Commandment?””

    That’s because the question has nothing to do with the subject of the post.

    Now you stated that you have two friends who purchased “GM cars” reciently. How many were Volts? Didn’t think so. But I do have a friend at the Club who’s son bought a Volt and I drove it (only around the area). It was a slug. It rode like a buckboard (and I have a Corvette so I know what a buckboard drives like), handled with the overstear of a Studabaker and had zero “car” feel. It wasn’t bad off the line but the one speed trans felt wierd to me.

    Now this kid goes to Penn State. The trip from Bryn Athyn to State College is quite a few rough hours. When he arrives, he has to park 6 blocks from his dorm because that’s the charging station. So he then takes a bus to his dorm. And vice versa when he’s leaving. BTW, he gets to about Downingtown on the Turnpike before he goes into gas mode, a whopping 40 miles. Fewer in the cold. He also has to fill up once before he arrives at school.

    Suffice it to say, he’s looking at a Kia Soul this summer.

    ” Thanks to the buyout and restructuring, GM is doing very well indeed, as are their workers, a resounding accomplishment for our country!”

    And Ford is doing better than Gm without a buyout and “restructuring” as you call it. Just so you know, sending a man to the moon was a resounding accomplishment for our country, not taking over private industry to prop up a union. That’s a resounding failure for crony capitalism and social planning but it was a success for union vote buying and wealth transfer.

  44. In case my excerpt from Ms Fluke’s comment doesn’t make the gist of her reasoning clear, and it probably doesn’t, here is another version explaining her expectation of what Catholic institutions should do for her …

    “Leader Pelosi, … conservative Catholic organizations have been asking: what did we expect when we enrolled at a Catholic school? … We can only answer that … We did not expect that … women would be told in the national media that if we wanted comprehensive insurance that met our needs, not just those of men, we should have gone to school elsewhere, even if that meant a less prestigious university …”

    Ergo, if the Catholics have institutionally built up something prestigious, and she wants access to that prestige, she’s on her own view entitled to enjoy the prestige of it, on her non, or even anti-catholic terms. After all they say they care; and if they care, they will care about what she cares about, and quit bitching that her interests are at variance with theirs.

    After all … Isn’t she worth it?

  45. “That’s because the question has nothing to do with the subject of the post.”

    Alas, Mr Hoagie, neither did your remark about Ms Fluke’s supposed sins.

    I guess we shall just have to mark you down as another conservative slandering a young woman for daring to express her opinion.

  46. “I guess we shall just have to mark you down as another conservative slandering a young woman for daring to express her opinion.”

    How’s your reading comprehension Anna Nova? Was it not I who posted:”Secondly, I don’t feel the need to either defend or speak out against Rush. He’s a big boy and can do as he wishes, just like you and just like Fiuke.

    And she still has nothing to do with this post and you still are highjacking this post and trolling.

  47. “Was it not I who posted:”Secondly, I don’t feel the need to either defend or speak out against Rush. He’s a big boy and can do as he wishes, just like you and just like Fiuke.””

    My reading comprehension is pretty good, Mr Hoagie, for it was you who ALSO wrote: ““And finally, I don’t see her as a “victim”, I see her as a perpetrator who wants others to subsidize her sin.

    “I guess we shall just have to mark you down as another conservative slandering a young woman for daring to express her opinion.”

    If you like, you may reply in the comments to the other post.

  48. Koolo noted that the Opel Ampera (the European version of the Volt) was named the European Car of the Year. I can see why: the total electric drive vehicles are a new concept (sort of) for the automobile industry, and that makes it interesting. Whether it will actually sell well in Europe is another matter.

    Even the Edsel sold 84,000 cars, over three model years, before the various Edsel models were discontinued. :)

  49. The Volt is different from the other hybrids in that it uses an electric drive system; the gasoline engine is there solely to recharge the batteries when they get low. It is a hybrid, under that definition, in that it is both battery driven and has a gasoline engine, but it is different from the types of hybrids with which we are more familiar. The Nissan Leaf is a total electric car, plug-in only.

  50. “I can see why: the total electric drive vehicles are a new concept (sort of) for the automobile industry”

    People have been trying to manufacture (successful) electric cars since the 1890′s. The Baker Electric was an early manufacturer (I think made in Ohio). Matter of fact they sold one to Edison (or he helped design one, I forget). I once saw one at the Hershey Auto Show, very funky looking even for those days.

    My question is: let’s say they become successful. What happens when 25 million plug into our electric grid to recharge? I would think it’d be “lights out”.

  51. I thought personal attacks were not welcome on your blot, Mr Editor, yet here we have your chronic attack man/woman at it again and again:

    “And I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting to get it again, considering how untrustworthy you are.”

    This man/woman is simply unable to live up to your requests for civility, therefore he needs to be reminded over and over and over!

  52. SINP writes

    This man/woman is simply unable to live up to your requests for civility, therefore he needs to be reminded over and over and over!

    That’s not a personal attack at all. It’s a statement of fact, in my opinion. For instance, you’ve written that Rick Santorum wants to ban contraception; yet, when pressed by Editor, you disappear. You refuse to acknowledge your error … indeed, you perpetuate it. This is untrustworthy. Why would Editor grant editorial access to someone like that?

    In addition, I’ve asked you time and time again to condemn Bill Maher, Ed Schultz, et. al. for their attacks on women. You have been incredibly concenrned of late about attacks on women based on your rants about Rush Limbaugh, have you not? Yet, you refuse to even utter one word about these people. Why is that, SINP? What is wrong with you?

    So, with that, too, that makes you completely untrustworthy in my opinion. It’s not a personal attack.

    Admit it — you’re just upset that I don’t let you get away with your double standards and duplicity.

  53. “My question is: let’s say they become successful. What happens when 25 million plug into our electric grid to recharge? I would think it’d be “lights out”.”

    I’m sure that GM stockholders would be ecstatic if were to reach that goal in 5 years, and so would the GM workers!

    With 50% of our electric power generation done by burning dirty, filthy coal, there is the concern which I would have.

  54. When I said “they become successful” I meant electric cars, not just GM cars. And I don’t know how ecstatic the stock or bond holders would be knowing they could be cut out of the loop by Obama at a whim but the GM workers would surely be ecstatic knowing they are an Obama “protected class”.

    And your concern should not be how the electric power is generated but rather if enough can be generated to keep your lights on, your heat and A/C going and your laptop on TFSJ. Or do you prefer rolling blackouts? Perhaps natural gas and not electric is the way to power cars of the future? Maybe nuclear? Or maybe if we had an actual energy policy which encouraged development of all forms of energy the market itself would sort out which type is best for which application. Nah, it’s much better to have politicians determine these things rather than we stupid consumers and producers. We don’t deserve options, we need to be hearded like cattle.

  55. The Left’s pie-in-the-sky predictions fall flat, the public ain’t goin’ for Obama’s dumb-ass, way over-priced, heavily subsidized, dangerous, unreliable, crappy golf carts…The proof is in the pudding.

    Dear GE, GM and Obama: We’re Not as Dumb as You

    by John Ransom, 3/6/2012 at Townhall.com

    When GE announced at the end of February that it would be bailing out General Motor’s green car strategy by ordering 12,000 electric-gasoline powered Chevy Volts for their fleet, it was more than just Government Electric doing a solid for Government Motors doing a solid for the Government Owners in the Obama administration.

    Rather it was an admission of failure by the monetization arm of the Green Conspiracy to control market behavior.

    While GM bet that Volt would be “a magnet around everything we are trying to do to showcase our brand,” so far it’s been a millstone for the government-controlled car company. GE, for their part, has been buying up alternative electric schemes around the country to support what they suppose will be burgeoning demand for electric power, fueled by electric cars, fueled by federal tax dollars.

    Yet new data indicates that consumers are getting tired of the green-sales hard-sell by corporations, governments and general do-gooders.

    Because, despite years of governments, corporations and general do-gooders spending huge dollars on marketing, public relations and soft sales to get consumers to accept “green,” it turns out that 99% percent of Americans still do what makes the most economic sense for themselves and their families.

    And economic sense doesn’t include buying electric cars, despite the huge government subsidies involved in trying to offset total ownership costs.

    While it’s true that you can toddle down the road cheaper in a car that buys its fuel per kilowatt hour than you can on a car that runs on gasoline, when you figure out total cost of ownership, including battery depreciation, electric vehicles, as represented by the Chevy Volt, are 43 percent more expensive to operate than gasoline alternatives.

    That partially explains why Government Motors decided not to initially market their cars to hard-bitten fleet managers who pay attention to the bottom line and nothing else.

    But, unfortunately for Obama, consumers can do math too.

    “Consumer support for clean energy concepts,” reports Fierce Energy, “from renewable energy to alternative fuel vehicles to smart grid technologies — has declined significantly between 2009 and 2011, according to a new survey from Pike Research.”

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