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A huge loss.
I do hope Andrew Breitbart rests in peace. But I’m troubled by how even the very early reports of his untimely death specified it resulted from natural causes. Reports didn’t even say apparently just flat-out natural causes.
It’s my understanding that standard procedure requires that any sudden death by a relatively young and apparently healthy individual be investigated as one arising from unknown causes until an autopsy determined the actual cause of death.
I’m not jumping to conclusions, I’m saying there’s evidence that’s already been done.
PS: I’m aware there are reports Brietbart’s medical history included heart problems.
It might be jumping to conclusions a bit, but at least it tells us that he wasn’t obviously murdered. When a 43 year old man with a fair number of people who dislike him rather intensely suddenly dies, there will always be immediate suspicions.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-1969-2012.html
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In time, Andrew Breitbart might have aged into greater self-control and a higher concept of public service. Premature death deprived him of the chance at redemption often sought and sometimes found by people who have done wrong in their lives and work.
And this is where it becomes difficult to honor the Roman injunction to speak no ill of the dead. It’s difficult for me to assess Breitbart’s impact upon American media and American politics as anything other than poisonous. When one of the leading media figures of the day achieves his success by his giddy disdain for truth and fairness—when one of our leading political figures offers to his admirers a politics inflamed by rage and devoid of ideas—how to withhold a profoundly negative judgment on his life and career?
Especially when that career was so representative of his times?
We live in a time of political and media demagoguery unparalleled since the 19th century. Many of our most important public figures have gained their influence and power by inciting and exploiting the ugliest of passions—by manipulating fears and prejudices—by serving up falsehoods as reported truth. In time these figures will one by one die. What are we to say of this cohort, this group, this generation? That their mothers loved them? That their families are bereaved? That their fans admired them and their employees treated generously by them? Public figures are inescapably judged by their public actions. When those public actions are poisonous, the obituary cannot be pleasant reading.
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Leave it to Anna Nova to soil an obit.
Mr Editor, please remove John Hitchcock’s post dated March 1, 2012 at 19:22 as a personal attack.
I believe you suspended Wagonwheel for 2 weeks for repeated personal attacks. Do you intend to apply this policy even-handedly, or does this blog operate on different sets of rules depending on the political bias of the offender?
How is stating you “soiled an obituary” a personal attack? Answer: It isn’t.
And WW wasn’t just suspended for repeated personal attacks. He was suspended in large measure for personally threatening me.
Here’s what Andrew Breitbart tweeted about Teddy Kennedy the day Kennedy died.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-S2_i4aDR_FI/T0-j7eqvDwI/AAAAAAABRsY/5ZORtDazZG0/s1600/BreitbartKennedy.jpg
“I’ll shut my mouth for Carter. That’s just politics. Kennedy was a special pile of human excrement”.
I’m terribly sorry – Breitbart tweeted that the day after Kennedy died.
Mathew 7:16, By their fruits ye shall know them
It matters not what mask the depraved hide behind, the lack of humanity reveals itself as surely as the morning sun dispels the delusions of darkest night.
David Frum wrote:
The problem, of course, is that Mr Breitbart didn’t have a “giddy disdain for truth and fairness,” but that his attacks were so often successful because they were true. And the truth has set us free, free from people like Anthony Weiner.
“Mathew 7:16, By their fruits ye shall know them”
Thank you ropelight. You have identified why so many thinking people disliked Breitbart.
Did Brietbart die of natural causes, or do a peculiar series of strange coincidences suggest a sinister motives?
The following excerpt is from an article by Paul Joseph Watson, Infowars.com, March 2, 2012
Breitbart: “Wait ‘Til They See What Happens March 1st”
Breitbart died hours before planned release of damning Obama footage
Unfortunately, Anna is correct in his/her comment(s) about Breitbart’s tweets regarding Ted Kennedy. I see SINP’s old buddy Hube had to add an update to a post yesterday after someone pointed this out. Given this, Breitbart doesn’t really deserve any special “decorum” consideration if one wants to be fair.
http://colossus.mu.nu/archives/327142.php
OMG, not this again, though not a surprise from ropelight who has indicated many times on this blog how much he hates our President, as did the firebrand Breitbart as well.
SINP writes
Now you know how we all feel when you bring up the conspiracies of the first two elections of the last 12 years, for example.
The difference, koolo, is that the “conspiracies” to which you refer have been clearly demonstrated. The ropelight conspiracy on Breitbart has not!
That said, I do agree with your (and Hube’s) comment re Breitbart’s really nasty statements about Ted Kennedy after his death. Only haters would ever behave like that!
SINP writes
Actually, they haven’t. This is why I made the comment. There’s actually a lot less “evidence” to support your out-in-space election theories than there is regarding a 9/11 conspiracy. Yet, you’re not a Truther, are you?
Unfortunately, there’s no other one like him who is willing to wade into the battle with the odds against him in numbers like he did with OWS.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/steve-bannon-we-are-going-to-release-the-breitbart-obama-harvard-tapes-in-one-week-to-10-days-video/
Breitbart doing the job the media won’t (and didn’t) again, it appears.
“Thank you ropelight. You have identified why so many thinking people disliked Breitbart.”
Really Anna Nova, really? Exactly how many young women did Breitbart allow to drown in his car? Exactly how many DUI’s did his family get him out of? I’d like to know.
Things that make you go Hummmm!
Come now Perry, can’t you see how the untimely death of Andrew Breitbart only hours before he was to release tapes of Obama with terrorists Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn (years before Obama claimed he first met them in Chicago) which were described by observers as so damaging that Obama’s hopes for a second term might be derailed?
Aren’t you even a tiny-tiny bit curious?
He’s too busy trying to convince anyone who’ll listen that the election two presidential cycles ago was “stolen” by the GOP.
That the racial division and class warfare, koolo, emanate from your side, is crystal clear to discerning people!
The outright hatred of our President, a moderate leader, especially from the Southern red states, is evidence of the continuing racial division in our country. Moreover, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, Associate Professor of Law at Ohio State University:
You know this to be true, koolo. And our author does not want to know about this. I wonder why?
And Republican tax policy proposals aimed at granting yet higher tax reductions to our wealthier people is more than enough to demonstrate the Right’s desire to continue class warfare. Richard Wolff in The Guardian has something to say about this fallacious charge:
Moreover, where has Americans’ wealth been going over time? You know the answer! So please, in spite of what Republicans and Conservatives claim, who really is conducting class warfare in America?
Back on topic, with condolences to the Breitbart family, here and here is the reality of the Andrew Breitbart whom I saw in action. Much of what he did was in the same vein as his untoward remarks about Ted Kennedy a day after his death. Thus, Breitbart by his behavior has earned similar coverage as that which he gave to Teddy, nothing less, nothing more. The truth hurts sometimes; but that’s reality, no matter on which side of the political divide one chooses to be.
[Released from moderation as more evidence of the vileness of the American Left -- JH]
Please retrieve my post from moderation.
SINP writes
Like you? The same person who holds up Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as paragons of racial justice? The crystal sure is clouded, then!
Uh huh. As opposed to the outright hatred of the past president, especially from the big city blue states, was evidence of the continuing racial division in our country as well. Which is crystal clear to discerning people.
Anyone who can, with a straight face, call Obama a “moderate” is someone who cannot be believed in anything, due to his complete delusions and sheeple mentality. Onward ho! … lemmings.
Absolutely, I do. I credit both of these warriors against racism paragons in the fight for racial equality.
There was some, true, but not nearly as intense as what we see from your side against our current President, koolo.
You are not attacking me, are you Mr Hitchcock? Of course you are, as you Righties continue to violate our Author’s Comments and Content Policy.
Just today certain individuals have been called a loon, a racist, a liar, delusional, and sheeple mentality.
You people simply lack the self-discipline to control yourselves, don’t you?
SINP writes
Then this one statement proves w/o a doubt how far gone you are in terms of rationally being able to discuss matters of racial equality/racism. Talk about “crystal clear!” Nothing is more crystal than this.
A wholly subjective statement not supported by any objective evidence.
SINP writes
Here, I’ll say to you what you once said to me (paraphrase): “Be a man, SINP. Quit crying like a baby.” Or, is that now not good enough?
You routinely say that we conservatives possess a sheeple mentality and most certainly have called us racists before.
Citation please, koolo!
Something which you grace us with in almost every one of your posts, or haven’t you noticed, koolo?
As an aside from this topic, a message to Hube re his Watcher’s Council:
I actually appreciate the notices you post here about Watcher’s Council activities, because this helps me keep up to date on what our right wing extremists are writing about!
SINP writes
Merely take a general perusal of here and CSPT.
Au contraire — I do so on occasion.
You forgot to include that it galls the hell out of you that each one of those blogs gets hundreds times more daily hits than your own farcically named blog.
Barack Hussein Obama is a moderate…
A. Communist
B. Jihadi
C. Kenyan
D. Racist Bigot
Note: I released a vile comment from the fringe Left. The light of truth should be shown on the vile haters that over-populate the Leftist thought patterns, that they should serve as warning to all who may be swayed by their hatred and double standards.
That’s not a citation, koolo. Obviously, you do not have one, so you must be making stuff up.
Is this a true statement, koolo?
Not at all. That’s you projecting, as usual.
Is this the best you’ve got, koolo?
Typical! Is this the best you’ve got, ropelight? Here’s one more example of the hatred from the Right, not to mention that it is in violation of the Comment and Content Policy, which has happened so often today that our Editor has apparently gotten tired of enforcing it, while his blog becomes diminished in quality and civility.
Are you people suffering under the real possibility that your party has fragmented, disintegrated, and has not a viable candidate who can defeat President Obama and the Dems in the upcoming election? Well it’s just as well, because we need four more years of President Obama’s leadership during these very difficult times!
Mr Hitchcock is projecting once again. The predominance of hatred comes from the Right, as evidenced on this very blog! You folks cannot erase the hateful comments and personal attacks you have already made, just today for example, from you too Mr Hitchcock!
SINP writes
Actually, I could state that your memory is in dire need of work. That, or you’re incredibly disingenuous. But your “game” is quite well known, hence your demands for citations, let alone your derisive “making things up” comments are worth about as much as you can physically remember!
Except that, your past stated standard for “blog excellence” was the # of visitors and commenters it receives. Your own blog receives next to none of both. Thus, by your own standards, your blog is a dismal failure while the WC’s blogs are very successful. Which means it’s crystal clear that your mocking statements about them are just masking your actual jealousy.
SINP writes
Citation please! And, failing that, I suppose we can say that SINP is “projecting.”
Heck, my microscopic blog, which receives about 75 views per day, absolutely shatters the dishonorably named blog that Wagonwheel runs out of the charitable contributions of the Editor. It doesn’t take a spike for my blog to hit triple digits, but it does take a spike for it to hit triples with a 2 or 3 in front (and my record is “triple digits” with a “15″ in front). But it takes a spike for Wagonwheel’s dishonorably named blog to hit double digits with a 2 in front.
Excuses, excuses, which get you nowhere, except to demonstrate that you could not come up with one credible example, therefore your grade is an “F”, which you would probably give to any one of your students who obfuscated in like manner, koolo!
I don’t believe I have ever said that, koolo, although I agree with your statement. Frankly, I don’t spend much time on my blog, and don’t advertise it much, but I do stand by every post I have initiated there. So yes, in terms of the number of hits, my blog is a failure.
I have called attention to all the personal attacks made against several commenters just today, so that is my citation. No projection here, koolo. I’ll leave that for you to continue to do!
Bye!
SINP writes
You’d get an F for failing to study, but it’d be the teacher’s fault. IOW, I bet you were the type of student who bombed a test because your recall was lousy, then blamed the teacher because he supposedly didn’t teach the material!
Of course you don’t. Just about any statement you make is subject to your convenient forgetfulness, unless it’s something that benefits you.
Ummm, yeah. Some of the most fun I have is being able to “punch down” (do look up that term) at both Wagonwheel and
PIATORAnna Nova, because my barrel of ink beats their pens (and do look that up, too).Once again, Wagonwheel attempts to set himself up as some sort of unbiased arbiter who can actually hand out grades. Well, I can hand out grades as well.
Wagonwheel’s understanding of American History: F (third standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Middle East History: F (fourth standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Asian History: F (third standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of European History: F (third standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Christianity: F (fifth standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Judaism and Islam: F
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Political Science: F
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Logic: F (fifth standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Economics: F (third standard deviation below average).
Wagonwheel’s understanding of Conservative principles and thought: F (tenth standard deviation below average).
Being a former educator in multiple facets for multiple years, and being a history buff and well-read in politics for over 30 years, I am more qualified than most to hand out grades. And those are the grades I am giving to Wagonwheel.
To understand Wagonwheel’s statement above, it is necessary to do the one thing post-modernists (who all fall well to the Left of Center on the political spectrum) hate the most: provide context. What was the “citation please” event Koolo threw out? First, it was throwing the tool the disingenuous radical Leftist greatly loves to abuse in the face of the disingenuous radical Leftist. Second, it was a demand for a citation “proving” what the disingenuous radical Leftist claimed. And what was it the disingenuous radical Leftist claimed?
Interesting that the disingenuous radical Leftist left that part out of the quote.
So, Koolo demanded references “proving” that “the predominance of hatred comes from the Right” and Wagonwheel refused to provide any references whatsoever. Far from providing any credible reference material, he didn’t even provide unsatisfactory reference material. What he did provide was anecdotes which only fit his paramaters within radical Leftist minds, and did not even fit his parameters within Centrist minds. (It is important here to remember that the radical Leftist has previously declared he is to the Left of Obama, and that’s already very difficult to accomplish.)
But as the radical Leftist is wont to declare, he only provided anecdotal evidence (and hyper-flawed, at that). Actually worse, he only provided his own statements to prove his own statements true, both of which are very clearly false.
In short, as Koolo has noted multiple times, Wagonwheel is applying two very distinct standards: one ground-level for radical Leftists, and one in the stratosphere for Conservatives. And as the PhD in biological fields (that’s a hard science, demanding very serious understanding of controlled experiments — which correlate to standardized requirements from data) and multi-year college professor Eric Blair has been known to write, concerning the positions of Liberals, “that’s different.”
Because of Breitbart’s sudden death the tapes he was scheduled to reveal on March 1st haven’t yet seen the light of day. Observers said they contained footage which could have derailed Obama’s hopes for a second term.
Recently, Breitbart was a dinner guest in the Chicago home of Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn, and since both of them were said to be on the tapes with Barack Obama at Harvard (well before Obama admits he first met the unrepentant domestic terrorist duo) speculation about how and when the tapes came into Breitbart’s possession is beginning to heat up. Next begins the inevitable finger pointing.
The people who have those tapes Breitbart said would be deleterious to Obama’s neverending election campaigns have said they will release the tapes within a week or two, so those tapes apparently will come to light in the very near future. I, for one, am very interested in finding out what’s on those tapes, since Obama himself (his ghost-writer, unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, more accurately) declared he sought out the most radical professors and fellow students he could find while he was in clearly Liberal colleges.
So those videos could be very damaging, should the general public see them. And, apparently, Breitbart’s death will not prevent those videos from being disseminated. On the other hand, clearly damaging tapes that could destroy Obama’s political aspirations have been intentionally withheld from the public — by a news organization, no less: the Los Angeles Times, who has had ownership of those tapes for multiple years but refuses to release them to the public for fear of harming their beloved Teh Won.
Hitch, ever wonder what’s holding up the release of Breitbart’s tapes? We know what motivates the LA Times to keep their tapes out of public view.
Obviously Breitbart had a process already in place to release his tapes only a few hours later on the very day he died. Anyone sincerely wishing to honor the man and his work would have made every effort to follow Breitbart’s clear intentions and release those tapes on schedule.
Since that didn’t happen, it’s clear that an agenda different from Breitbart’s has taken control.