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  1. One might laugh at this cartoon and note how clever it is, but the message is wingnut.typical.crazy, therefore of course grossly distorted. I’m sure that Yorkshire actually believes it! But you know what, this very message is put forward on a daily basis, by people like Yorkshire [Characterization deleted; please refer to Comments & Conduct Policy. -- Editor] Enter Fox News and Rush Limbaugh et al, Yorkshire’s major sources of right-wing group-think! :)

  2. The message, Wagonwheel, unfortunately for you fits your very philosophy to a tee. This is why you label it “crazy.” The message radical far-leftists like yourself put forth are all akin to those of the Democratic Underground, Daily Kos, Media Matters, MSNBC, and Keith Olbermann.

    In other words, the message is radical.typical.socialist.crazy.

  3. I very much take issue with part of the cartoon! The Broccoli Stem (Original spinal cord was bred out of species after WWII) is untrue. There were a lot of great Democrats after the end of World War II who had plenty of backbone when it came to dealing with Communism, including Presidents Truman and Kennedy, and even Lyndon Johnson. The problem arose because President Johnson and “the Best and the Brightest” so terribly mismanaged the Vietnam War that they turned the Democratic Party away from being staunchly anti-Communist and pro-freedom into the pusillanimous purveyors of multi-culturalism and moral relativism that the Democratic Party has become today. President Carter, a well-intentioned and good-hearted man who happened to be almost as unfit for the office to which he was ultimately elected than Barack Obama compounded the Democrats’ backbone problems with his inept handling of the Iranian hostage situation, but he did accomplish one thing: he paved the way for the voters to elect Ronald Reagan!

    So, change that date: the broccoli cord didn’t really appear until the mid-1960s!

  4. One difference I’d note: Yorkshire posted a joke, but our friends on the left have been dead serious in their claims that political conservatism derives from actual differences in brain chemistry, differences they characterize as making “consrvative” brains inferior.

  5. Editor says:
    December 10, 2011 at 21:17

    One difference I’d note: Yorkshire posted a joke, but our friends on the left have been dead serious in their claims that political conservatism derives from actual differences in brain chemistry, differences they characterize as making “consrvative” brains inferior.

    From Cancer in 1977 and worked my way to 2006 with the whole leg amputation to and including the hip, everyone who knows me should know that at most times I do not take things seriously. It’s my coping mechanism in a world where everybody is freeking sensitive about everything. Sorry, not me. I mean I had to give up my day job as a stand-up comic, it forced me to work at I-HOP, I’m a conservative by nature since I Lean to the Right (no right leg) and if I were a woman, my name would be Eileen. So, on this one, if I offended anyone, tough Bovine Feces. Walk a mile in my shoe, and you’ll see what life is really about. 8-) And Dammit, I still have to buy a pair of shoes at a SHOE STORE. If it’s a SHOE STORE, why can’t you buy One Shoe?

  6. “President Carter, a well-intentioned and good-hearted man who happened to be almost as unfit for the office to which he was ultimately elected than Barack Obama compounded the Democrats’ backbone problems with his inept handling of the Iranian hostage situation, but he did accomplish one thing: he paved the way for the voters to elect Ronald Reagan!”

    You force me to defend President Carter, Mr. Editor.

    First, it was the military who botched the rescue of the hostages, not President Carter.

    Second, the hostages were returned safely the day after the last day of the Carter Presidency, so he must have done something right.

    Moreover, it should be pointed out that President Carter was the victim of circumstances beyond his control when the Arab Oil Honchos decided to make more money on their oil, catching the US unprepared due to our dependence on foreign oil, thus causing massive inflation in prices.

    This inheritance of the problem by Reagan caused Reagan to have a disastrous mid-term in 1982, just like Obama’s inherited Cheney/Bush/Repub problems caused Obama to have a disasterous mid-term.

    However, Reagan recovered much like Obama is doing, so there was no doubt about Reagan’s reelection, just as there is no doubt about Obama’s reelection.

    PS: Note that Reagan did not follow up on Carter’s initiatives to end our dependence on foreign oil. Look where that Reagan negligence got us, not to mention his trickle down theory which has never worked but which the Republicans are still touting!

  7. Note Wagonwheel’s radical leftist revision of history: Carter’s problems were not his own fault, which Reagan inherited. Bush’s problems *were* his own fault, which Obama inherited.

    Obama is “recovering” much like Reagan? Again, do you comment on *reality* or some what-I-wish dream state? Because such a statement is beyond ridiculous, as any indicator shows.

    There is “no doubt” about Obama’s re-election? Again, *reality* proves otherwise.

  8. WW opines:

    First, it was the military who botched the rescue of the hostages, not President Carter.

    The President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. So Carter didn’t make sure his troops were capable

    Second, the hostages were returned safely the day after the last day of the Carter Presidency, so he must have done something right.

    The Iranians knew Carter was a paper tiger. They held this over his head to the last minute of those 444 days. On the other hand, Reagan promised to make Iran a sea of glass when he was inaugurated if the hostages weren’t returned before he got one. Freeing the hostages when they did was their last slap in the face at Carter.

    (As an aside in FAIRNESS, Carter did get the Camp David Accords, Egypt with out Mubarack said they’re dead under BO. It comes full circle.)

  9. WW wrote:

    “President Carter, a well-intentioned and good-hearted man who happened to be almost as unfit for the office to which he was ultimately elected than Barack Obama compounded the Democrats’ backbone problems with his inept handling of the Iranian hostage situation, but he did accomplish one thing: he paved the way for the voters to elect Ronald Reagan!”

    You force me to defend President Carter, Mr. Editor.

    No, you aren’t forced to do anything; you could have ignored it completely. If you defend President Carter, it is because you have chosen to do so, unless, of course, you are a Democratic Party official who is being paid to do so. But it really doesn’t matter: the voters took their decision concerning President Carter, and it wasn’t a positive one.

    First, it was the military who botched the rescue of the hostages, not President Carter.

    I’m trying to picture your response to a statement from me that “It wasn’t President Bush who was responsible for the length of the war in Iraq; it was the military which botched finishing the job earlier.” President Carter set American policy during his four years as our President and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and the President has greater authority in the conduct of foreign and military policy than in domestic affairs. He was responsible for what happened, for the rescue mission, but more, for the weak-willed and pusillanimous American response to the hostage crisis. Had he made it clear to the Iranians that their act of war — and invading and seizing another country’s legal embassy is an act of war — against the United States would be met with war if they did not release the hostages, safe and unharmed, in 72 hours, and meant it, they would have been released in short order. Because he did not, because he was weak and indecisive, the situation dragged on for over a year, humiliating the United States, and encouraging others who would challenge the United States that they need not fear doing so.

    That was demonstrated by the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Perhaps they would have done so anyway — no one can know — but the strong and determined American response to that, President Carter’s decision not to send American athletes to participate in the 1980 Olympic Games in Moscow, President Carter demonstrated yet again that he was unfit as the leader of the United States.

    Second, the hostages were returned safely the day after the last day of the Carter Presidency, so he must have done something right.

    He did indeed. And what he did right was to lose the 1980 election in rather spectacular fashion, to a real man. Once the Iranians thought that they were going to face an American President who would turn Tehran and Qom into radioactive black holes, they knew that they had damned well better have our people out of Iran before President Reagan changed our policy.

    This inheritance of the problem by Reagan caused Reagan to have a disastrous mid-term in 1982, just like Obama’s inherited Cheney/Bush/Repub problems caused Obama to have a disasterous mid-term.

    However, Reagan recovered much like Obama is doing, so there was no doubt about Reagan’s reelection, just as there is no doubt about Obama’s reelection.

    Really? By this point in President Reagan’s first term, the economy had turned around, and unemployment was dropping. There was no talk about a “double-dip” recession. I wouldn’t count my re-election victories until they actually happen.

    PS: Note that Reagan did not follow up on Carter’s initiatives to end our dependence on foreign oil. Look where that Reagan negligence got us, not to mention his trickle down theory which has never worked but which the Republicans are still touting!

    Whatever you wish to say about President Reagan’s economic policies, the economy took off and expanded rapidly; he was re-elected, and his Vice President elected after President Reagan’s second term was near its end.

  10. The Flamingo Kid wrote:

    Note Wagonwheel’s radical leftist revision of history: Carter’s problems were not his own fault,

    In some ways, they weren’t his own fault. But what was his responsibility was his response to our country’s problems. The American people did not blame President Carter for the seizure of our embassy in Tehran; they held him responsible for his failure to get the Americans released.

    And President Obama isn’t at fault for the problems with which he has to deal, but he is responsible for his responses to them, and whether those problems get solved or not. He knew what the problems were when he ran for President, and he told the American people that he was the man who could solve our problems. It has turned out that he isn’t the man who can solve our problems, and unless he gets things turned around in the next eleven months, the American people will hold him responsible for those failures. WW will tell us that President Obama’s failures are not his fault, either, but the fault of those mean old Republicans who keep getting in his way, but the American people are interested in job performance, not excuses.

  11. Yorkshire wrote:

    As an aside in FAIRNESS, Carter did get the Camp David Accords, Egypt with out Mubarack said they’re dead under BO. It comes full circle.

    I give President Carter a lot of credit for the Camp David Accords, and they are, in the balance, the one thing which makes President Carter a better President than President Obama.

    Yeah, I know: that isn’t saying much.

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